15th December 2020
Information that people MUST be given before they are asked to consider taking the covid vaccine
A placeholder post.
Also see my article: The covid vaccine is good but the people must decide
Official information provided by the UK
While it has some important information, I believe it doesn’t provide sufficient information for the People to provide informed consent. Below is information that I believe should be provided in the official information:
FIRST, THAT THE VIRUS HAS BARELY KILLED ANY ADDITIONAL PEOPLE IN SWEDEN
My article in The Australian, 30 December 2020. [And a letter to the editor on 1 January 2021]
1/ Sweden's official death data as at 11 December 2020 are now available. I've updated my analysis to 96,200 annual deaths, around 3000 more than the trend based on population growth and previous years.
Spreadsheet: https://t.co/ee8t0231T4
Source: https://t.co/zrnoXsvBgj
— Sanjeev Sabhlok, Pope @Church of Reason & Liberty (@sabhlok) December 14, 2020
SECOND, THAT THE VACCINE MIGHT BE HELPFUL FOR THOSE OVER 75, BEING UNNECESSARY FOR MOST OF THE REST
THOSE OVER 75 CAN BENEFIT FROM THE PFIZER VACCINE
Since around 80 per cent of covid deaths in Sweden have occurred in those over 75, this age group in Australia can benefit from the Pfizer vaccine, even though only 4.3 per cent of participants in the study were from this group.
— Sanjeev Sabhlok, Pope @Church of Reason & Liberty (@sabhlok) December 14, 2020
Also note:
Adding this tweet to show why I'm comfortable with those over 75 choosing to take this vaccine.
See p. 59: "In participants ≥75 years of age, the observed VE was 100%" – https://t.co/m9gxbyH0tp
and attached table from p.26 of https://t.co/DD7zopUDL1 pic.twitter.com/nKBAvsY233
— Sanjeev Sabhlok, Pope @Church of Reason & Liberty (@sabhlok) December 15, 2020
When the elderly and frail die after receiving the COVID vaccine — Jon Rappoporthttps://t.co/ZOGSLppU7I pic.twitter.com/VDsQdyDenY
— Christine Massey (@Christi45657364) December 17, 2020
FEWER PEOPLE BELOW 64 HAVE DIED IN SWEDEN THIS YEAR THAN IN THE AVERAGE YEAR – THIS MEANS PEOPLE BELOW 75 MOSTLY DON’T NEED THE VACCINE.
#LockdownCrimesAgainstHumanity.
THE SMOKING GUN IS NOW CLEAR ENOUGH: Look for excess deaths in ages below 64 and compare with Sweden. Sweden's had FEWER deaths among those <64.
Those excess deaths are MURDERS by governments. https://t.co/lkPGtKBZ9A pic.twitter.com/6g1t7P7l7Y
— Sanjeev Sabhlok, Pope @Church of Reason & Liberty (@sabhlok) December 15, 2020
A researcher thinks that those over 60 might also benefit although data that I’ve provided above doesn’t support such a view:
Thoughtful email from a researcher who has been part of #SARS-Cov-2 vaccine trials – he thinks 60 is a decent cutoff age to encourage people to get the vaccine, and compares the side effects to the shingles vaccine (which of course is not mandatory or particularly widely used). pic.twitter.com/LtGxlOlF0q
— Alex Berenson (@AlexBerenson) December 15, 2020
I don’t agree with 60 – more details:
I don't really care for man-made stats like IFR whose denominator is iffy.
I'm looking purely at the Grim Reaper's report: 80% or more of covid deaths in Sweden were of people older than 75. That's a good cut-off from the risk perspective.https://t.co/Zco6g8aVx7
— Sanjeev Sabhlok, Pope @Church of Reason & Liberty (@sabhlok) December 16, 2020
"Target vaccines to the most vulnerable, and don’t give them to people who have already been infected." pic.twitter.com/N6E4xs1zLB
— Martin Kulldorff (@MartinKulldorff) December 31, 2020
Kulldorff’s view again
That's exactly what I said in my 30 December article in The Australian.https://t.co/woVUFxLCJc https://t.co/DSv3NFAla8
— 🙂Sanjeev Sabhlok, Pope @Church of Reason& Liberty (@sabhlok) March 16, 2021
CHILDREN ARE PARTICULARLY IMMUNE
.Children are PARTICULARLY immune to SARS-CoV2.
They must NOT be vaccinated.https://t.co/GtaL5GeOQe
— Sanjeev Sabhlok, Pope @Church of Reason & Liberty (@sabhlok) December 19, 2020
And it is clear that “the vast majority are at less risk from this virus than from flu”
This is odd, because the vast majority are at less risk from this virus than from flu.
Forcing vaccination on that majority is illegal & unnecessary for the health of anyone. https://t.co/NMrpjRnGoQ— Yardley Yeadon (@MichaelYeadon3) December 20, 2020
THIRD, THOSE WHO HAVE HAD THE DISEASE DO NOT NEED THE VACCINE
Those who’ve had the disease have the best possible immunity. They don’t need it at all.
Basically any healthy person below 75 doesn't need it – their natural immunity will be sufficient.
I'll add a point about getting antibody + T-cells tested if one is over 75. I don't know whether doing so is easy or hard, just that those who've had covid don't need the vaccine.
— Sanjeev Sabhlok, Pope @Church of Reason & Liberty (@sabhlok) December 15, 2020
A summary flow chart:
A summary of my current view on the Pfizer vaccine.
I'll add this tweet to this list here:https://t.co/Ya4rQlCnUg pic.twitter.com/Ld17UosbxY
— Sanjeev Sabhlok, Pope @Church of Reason & Liberty (@sabhlok) December 15, 2020
Moreover, the vaccine doesn’t increase immunity for those who’ve already had the virus:
https://twitter.com/RepThomasMassie/status/1356713127962963973?s=19
FOURTH, THAT THE GOVERNMENT HAS PROVIDED INDEMNITY TO COMPANIES FROM ANY LIABILITY
That's a really good point – it ought to form part of the information that is provided to the people.
Quite a mess – a vaccine for something that's barely killed many additional people; and with no liability for any potential harm.
— Sanjeev Sabhlok, Pope @Church of Reason & Liberty (@sabhlok) December 15, 2020
FIFTH, THAT THERE ARE SOME IDENTIFIED SIDE EFFECTS BUT THESE ARE NOT VERY SERIOUS
But here’s something important: Peter Doshi: Pfizer and Moderna’s “95% effective” vaccines—we need more details and the raw data
There are two other pieces of info, potentially not so reliable, that also need to be addressed:
a) Open Letter to the Swedish Prime Minister and Swedish Public Health Director by Dr. Sanna Ehdin, 23 December 2020
b) Claims by Dr David Martin made in this video at 1 hour 42 minutes.
This chart shows that the side effects are relatively minor and disappear soon enough. But that they are relatively greater for the younger people – who don't need it anyway.
Let people be given all info and decide for themselves. https://t.co/4AQldlBaLQ
— Sanjeev Sabhlok, Pope @Church of Reason & Liberty (@sabhlok) December 15, 2020
NOTE: Some people think these are excessive: French Expert Shocked By Number Of Adverse Reactions To COVID-19 Vaccine.
There are apparently issues with polyethylene glycol (PEG) that is found in the vaccines. Testing for allergy to PEG can reduce adverse reactions (Source).
No chance this is a safe vaccine
Hospital worker with no prior allergies in intensive care with severe reaction after Pfizer Covid vaccine – Metro https://t.co/pXfuwVruwT
— val glass (@AussieVal10) December 16, 2020
LOL, yup, verified! She took the vacc and 20 minutes later she passes out! I expect the hospitals will soon be full from people taking the vax which will be called the "3rd wave" and then they impose martial law and mandatory vax pic.twitter.com/jmTJSxG3wx
— Jeff Berwick (@BerwickJeff) December 18, 2020
SIXTH, THERE COULD BE LONG TERM HARMS BUT THESE ARE NOT YET KNOWN
WHAT ABOUT LONG TERM VACCINE HARMS?
– It is never possible to prove anything to be perfectly safe
– It is all about costs and benefits and trade-offs
– For those >75 (others don't need it), long-term is not very long
– Let people be provided all information and let them decide pic.twitter.com/EAFVSOYhUw— Sanjeev Sabhlok, Pope @Church of Reason & Liberty (@sabhlok) December 15, 2020
It is unclear why any effect will take 5 years to start. That's not how biology works. That would be similar to the fears of GM crop opponents that harms will start in 20 years.
Such long term effects are very unlikely.
Things will either go bad quickly or all will be fine.
— Sanjeev Sabhlok, Pope @Church of Reason & Liberty (@sabhlok) December 15, 2020
Snopes' "fact checkers" are wrong about mRNA vaccins:https://t.co/7qse8j6cxc
Snopes, who claims to do fact checking, writes:
"No, mRNA COVID vaccines do not alter your DNA".
Snopes did not even begin to check the science facts.
— Pieter Borger (@BorgerPieter) December 17, 2020
SEVENTH, THERE ARE SOME REASONS TO SUGGEST A FLU VACCINE MIGHT INCREASE RISK OF COVID
Have you considered the cyclocline effect attributed to the flu vax? 2019 Military Study showed 36% increased risk of aquiring a Corona Virus after getting the flu vax. Many elderly and infirm are Vaxxed.
— Briarjay (@Briarjay1) December 15, 2020
“Christian Wehenkel, in the journal PeerJ (1 October 2020), studied 26 European countries and found a strong correlation (r = 0.62) between flu jab uptake and Covid deaths in older people” [Source]
OBJECTIONS DISPOSED OFF
“BUT WE NEED TO PROTECT THE COMMUNITY”
That can be done by simply letting the virus "rip" – FEWER people <64 have died in Sweden this year than in the average year. No need for a vaccine. The virus is free.
All that's needed is to protect the elderly.
— Sanjeev Sabhlok, Pope @Church of Reason & Liberty (@sabhlok) December 16, 2020
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I live in a village on the outskirts of a small city called Mangalore, in India.
The street talk by ordinary folk (not “experts”)is that people were fooled and bluffed to. There never was anything called COVID in the manner it is talked about.
Since the beginning of this year, I have not heard of a single death attributed to the masquerading(or should I say mask-erading) predator called COVID, among the 300 odd families living in my ward (most of these are joint families).
Life has been close to normal(as normal as draconian measures by the govt. would allow it to be) here since the beginning of the year.
Yes, people were wearing masks but the way it was worn and used rendered them totally useless.
Now, most people are discarding their masks too.
I wonder when the govt. will start its second round of scare-mongering?
Vaccines anyone? Sorry i don’t think anyone in my village would want to “volunteer”. Certainly not me. But if they are lied to and told that they can get it free alongwith 1 kg of sweets then maybe they may agree. But soon as the bottom falls out of the vaccine scam, those queues will disappear faster than the politician who seeks votes before the election and who never sees you again until the next.