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Request to Swami Ramdev: for proof that India once ruled the world from Europe to Monogolia to Vietnam

I chanced upon this talk given by Swami Ramdev just a few days ago:

In this talk (1:09 minute to 1:38) Swami Ramdev suggests that sometime in India's history, the entire Europe and Asia was ruled by India. (Nothing except perhaps Siberia and Japan were left out – although that is not clear from the statement). Since USA/Australia did not exist, nor was Africa a major power, presumably these parts of the world are left out.

I find this a most astonishing and untenable claim. Why is this kind of a claim being made? What is its purpose?

I noticed that lots of people were busy taking notes of this talk. That's a matter of concern.

May I request Swamiji to provide public proof of his claim? This kind of re-writing of history should not be done without prior publication in peer reviewed journals. Has anyone published such claims in any peer-reviewed journal? I'd appreciate relevant reference.

Sanjeev Sabhlok

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  1. AD

    Sir, this is not a claim of conquest of those areas or rule in those areas.

    Merely refers to the fact that in some olden scriptures & texts, the area being referred to as ‘Bharat’ included all these areas too. I have heard – in certain other contexts the texts meant the whole world when referring to ‘bharat’.

     
  2. Sanjeev Sabhlok

    Samrajya is the word used. That implies rule.

    Second, a little further down, the word Bharatansh is used – implying these were part of Bharat.

    I think I need both the scriptural citation AND historical proof. This statement is being made in August 2013. We can’t go around making claims of this type to barely literate populations of India (and these people were making detailed notes). We need SOLID proof. Else such claims are likely to boomerang down the road with aggressive political demands to conquer other parts of Asia and Europe.

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  3. Surendra Kumar

    I find it slightly immature that you are asking proofs on a blog, from anyone you feel is lying. Better Idea will be to either go to Patanjali yog peeth or file a complaint in the court, to prove that you are a fact finder not a pure blogger.
    Just for you your information, these things are coming from a historian name Anita(May be slight different) Kedia. I feel the way she speaks is quiet authentic and always ready with references from well known publishers. Will be a good match for your questions.

     
  4. Sanjeev Sabhlok

    Surendra, this is not a “court” issue. It is about finding the truth.

    Are you referring to Kusum Kedia? I know her personally and hold her in high esteem. Will look around for any publication by her on this matter.

     
  5. Prof. Makkhan Lal

    I do not know the context in which Swami Ram Dev ji was speaking about India once haing ruled the world. Yes, in the Economic sphere it did. For this enlightenment I request Mr. Sabhlok to read just a few of books on Ancient and Medieval Economics; Exhibition of ignorance and foolhardiness is no great vitur. I am giving him the reference of only four books:

    1. Will Durrent: The Case of India (First Published in 1929; reprinted in 2007 by Strand Book Stall, Bombay.

    2. Savel Zimand : Living India, 1028, New York

    3. J.T Sounderland: India in Boundage, 1929, New York

    4. R.C. Dutt, 1893, Economic History of India Under the British Rule, London.

    I am sure Mr. Subhlok will find answers to all his questions.

     
  6. Bharat

    see, we have to look at it this way. People from Hindu vedic culture migrated to other parts of the world and founded all the advanced civilizations of the world.

    We have 3 proofs.

    1. Archaeological evidence – eg from south American Temples (Mayan) to Stonehenge in Britain

    The Hindu temples abounded in ancient Britain when Vedic culture pervaded the West. It has been already explained above that place-names ending in ‘shire’ testify to the existence of Shiva temples. Ancient Hindu temples lie in unrecognizable ruins throughout Great Britain and Ireland. Christian fanaticism prevents modern European scholars from publicizing them. One such famous temple existed on the Hill of Tara, alias Taragarh, (in today’s Indian parlance), in Ireland. The Hill of Tara consequently a sacred site on which Sanskrit-speaking Hindu Kshatriya kings used to be crowned for centuries. A 5000 years-old Vedic temple was discovered late in 1997 A. D. in Stanton Drew village in Somerset.

    Another famous temple is the wel-known stonehenge. It has been carbon-dated to be of 2000 B. C. The temple has astronomical marking to chart the raising and setting of the sun and moon. Its presiding deity used to be taken in a procession to the Avon river three miles away. The deity was so consecrated as to be illumined by the rising sun’s rays on the longest day. These are all hindu Vedic traditions. Ancient churches throughout Great Britain and Europe are astronomically oriented which proves that they are captured Hindu temples since Hindus were the only people known to be shaping their lives day after day on astronomical considerations at that remote age. The information about the Stonehenge and its above-mentioned implications is recorded in the Encyclopedia Britannica.

    Godfrey Higgin’s book titled “The Celtic Druids” leads valuable evidence indicating that Hindu had colonized the British isles long before the Roman conquest. That book, published in 1829 A. D. is available in the British Museum library in London. Under Roman rule London was known as Londonium. This is a corruption of the much ancient Sanskrit terms Nondanium signifying a pleasing place.

    2. Etymological evidence

    1. Bhumi (Indian sanskrit word for earth) -> Humi and Humus -> Humans
    we are humus beings or bhumi beings.

    2. Sanskrit: Amaraka (land of immortals) -> America (both North and South)

    3. Sanskrit: Brihat-sthan (Great land or Island) -> Britain. In course of time Brihatsthan was corrupted to Britain in popular speech. That Britain itself signified ‘the Great’ isles was forgotten but the memory of ‘greatness’ persisted while the Sanskrit connotation was forgotten. That led to the addition of the objective ‘Great’ which explains the current name Great Britain.The term Anglo-Saxon is Sanskrit ‘Angla Saka Sunuh’ implying the descendants of the Sakas in England. Surnames like Peterson, Anderson, Jacobson are of the Sanskrit, Hindu tradition of describing a person as son of such and such. In some cases the English ending ‘Son’ is the earlier Hindu ending ‘Sen’. Thus Anderson is the English corruption of the Hindu name indrasen. Ireland is Arya Sthan and Scotland is Kshatra-sthan. Wales in Sanskrit signifies a seaside region.

    4.Sanskrit: Devaneshwar (Land of gods) -> Devonshire

    5.Sanskrit: Ramstan, (“Place of Lord Rama) -> Ramstein

    6. Sanskrit: Daityasthan, “Land of the Daityas” -> Deutchland

    7. Sanskrit: Sharman (Common hindu surname) -> German

    8. Sanskrit: Palustin (Vedic sage) -> Palestine

    9. Sanskrit: Skanda + Naviya ->Skanda is the son of Lord Siva. Naviya is Sanskrit for naval settlement. Scandinavians were the mariner descendants of the Vedic ksatriyas who worshipped Skanda.

    10. Sanskrit: Moksha (Salvation) -> Moscow

    11. Sanskrit: Astral-alaya, “(Land of the missiles)”.- Australia

    12. Jerusalem
    Sanskrit: Yadu-isha-layam — The township of Lord Krsna. Yadu – dynasty of Lord Krsna, Isha – God, alayam – abode or place.

    13. Judaism
    Sanskrit: Yaduism — The Yadu dynasty which Lord Krsna appeared in. It is common for the y and j to become interchangeable hence, Yaduism, Yeduism and finally Judaism.

    14. Israel
    Sanskrit: Ishwaralaya, “The abode of Isha – God”.

    15. Soviet
    Sanskrit: Svet, “White as in white snow covered region”.

    16. Russia
    Sanskrit: Rishiya, “Land of the Rishis”.

    17. Shalome
    Sanskrit: Ishalayam, “The abode of God”. Ishalayam – shalayam – shalome.

    18. Adam
    Sanskrit: aadim, “The first or most ancient man”.

    19. Abraham
    Sanskrit: Brahma, “Vedic God”.

    20. Korea
    Sanskrit: Gauriya, “Gouri, Vedic Goddess”.

    21. Danube river
    Sanskrit: Danuv — the Daityas were also known as the Danuv community due to Kashyapa munis marriage to Danu, who is also known as one of the primary Goddesses of the celts.

    22. England
    Sanskrit: Angulistan — Angulistan-Anguliand-England.

    23. Egypt
    Sanskrit: Ajapati — Lord Rama, the illustrious scion of Aja. Their kings were named Ramses meaning Rama the God.

    24. Stein
    Sanskrit: Stan, “Place”.

    25. Siberia
    Sanskrit: Shibeerya, “The locals still call their land Shibir”.

    26. Caspean sea
    Sanskrit: Kashyapa muni, “Named after the Vedic sage”.

    Indian/Vedic/Dharmic civilization is the mother of all civilizations.
    Indian sanskrit – the mother of all languages. Hindu/vedic people migrated to Europe, central asia, Asia, Africa, Russia and other places Vedic civilization was the pre-eminent culture and faith of the entire world in ancient times. It was also prevalent throughout the Pacific region from India to Malaysia, Indonesia, Borneo, Korea, Indochina, the Philippines, Japan, Australia, New Zealand, and farther east and up to Mexico.

    Eventually, descendants of Hindu/vedic culture were forcibly converted by desert religions (Christianity and Islam), Churches and Mosques were built on the same location of Hindu temples after its destruction. Current, stupid historians funded by vatican called it Pagan religion. Nice try. Try to de-link from sanskrit, which NASA acknowledged the best programming language.
    It is a different story how Backus and Naur stole from Sanskrit grammar and put their names under the world’s first computer programming language. The credit should go to Indian Hindu and Sanskrit grammarian Panini (3100 BC) . The father of first programming language.

    Origin of Music

    Hindu Vedic Music is the basis of world music. German Author, Weber writes in his book on ” Indian Literature”

    ” The Hindu Scale – Sa, Re, Ga, Ma, Pa, Dha, Nee, has been borrowed by Persians, where we find it in the form of do, re, ma, fa, so, le, ci. It came to the west and was introduced by Guido d’ Arezzo in Europe in the form of do, re, mi, fa, sol, lo, ti …. even the gamma of Guido (French Gramma, English Gammut) goes back to the Hindu Sanskrit gramma and Prakrit gamma and is thus a direct testimony of the Indian/Hindu origin of our European scale of seven notes”.

    Above origin of music is just a random example of how, no matter which aspect of life so called modern scholars pick up for investigation, they are willy nilly led to the Indian, Hindu, Vedic, Sanskrit origin of Human culture

    India was the motherland of our race, and Sanskrit the mother of European languages. She was the mother of our philosophy … of our mathematics … of the ideals embodied in Christianity … of self government and democracy…mother India is in many ways the mother of us all.

    — William Durant. Author of the ten volume, story of civilization.

    Only a few open-minded people who look at the whole picture will understand the inherent unity the world and what its history contains. Such unity is disturbed only by mankind’s immature, dogmatic, and self-centered feelings for regional and cultural superiority. We have seen this in the propaganda that was effectively used by the Nazis and is presently used by neo-Nazis and white supremacist groups who now employ the modern myth that the original location of the Aryan race was in northern Europe.

    Knapp, Stephen (2000-02-01). Proof of Vedic Culture’s Global Existence 

     
  7. Bharat

    The last proof is from oldest spiritual and scientific books of the world ” Vedas”

    According to a recent racial study (The History and Geography of Human Genes by Luigi Luca Cavalli-Sforza, Paolo Menozzi and Alberto Piazza ), it has been confirmed that all people of Europe, the Middle East, and India belong to a single Caucasian type race. This means that they had to have come from the same source. Thus, we are all descendants of this great Hindu/ Vedic culture, the center of which is India.

    Let us look at Vedic proof (Oldest spiritual and scientific books of Hindu/Vedic civilization) and migration of Hindus/vedic kings/seers/sages to other parts of the world between 15,000 BC to 7500 BC.

    “There are eighteen Puranas and sub-Puranas in Sanskrit. According to them, only those who settled on the high mountains of Central Asia and around the Caspian Sea, after the end of the fourth ice age, survived from the glaciers and deluge. During the period from the end of the fourth ice age and the great deluge, there were 12 great wars for the mastery over the globe. They divided the global regions into two parts. The worshipers of the beneficial forces of nature, or Devas, settled from the Caspian Sea to the eastern ocean, and the worshipers of the evil forces of nature occupied the land to the west of the Caspian Sea. These became known as the Assyrians (Asuras), Daityas (Dutch), Daiteyas (Deutch or German), Danavas (Danes), and Danutusahs (Celts). Some of them migrated to the American continent. The Mayans, Toltecs, and the rulers of Palanque (Patalalanke), are considered to be the Asuras who migrated to the Patala (land below), or the land of immortals, Amaraka.

    Knapp, Stephen (2000-02-01). Proof of Vedic Culture’s Global Existence

    India/Hindu/Vedic civilization is the mother of all civilizations.

    Let us look at another proof through Hindu/Vedic divine language Sanskrit and why it is the mother of all languages?

    Shalome
    Sanskrit: Ishalayam, “The abode of God”. Ishalayam – shalayam – shalome.

    Jerusalem
    Sanskrit: Yadu-isha-layam — The township of Lord Krishna. Yadu – dynasty of Lord Krsna, Isha – God, alayam – abode or place.

    Judaism
    Sanskrit: Yaduism — The Yadu dynasty which Lord Krishna appeared in. It is common for the y and j to become interchangeable hence, Yaduism, Yeduism and finally Judaism.

    Israel
    Sanskrit: Ishwaralaya, “The abode of Isha – God”.

    Sanskrit: Palustin (Vedic sage) -> Palestine

    Abraham
    Sanskrit: Brahma, “Vedic God”.

    Vaivasvata Manu, whose original name was Satyavrata, is the 7th Manu and considered the first king to rule this earth, who saved humanity from the great flood — after being warned of it by the Matsya avatar of Vishnu, who had also advised him to build a giant boat. The story is mentioned in early Hindu scriptures such as the Satapatha Brahmana, and it has often been compared with the popular traditions of a Great Deluge from other cultures around the world, particularly that of Noah’s Ark.

    We are all descendants of Manu (Common ancestor) – The King and Hindu seer of Vedic/Hindu civilization. Manu’s descendants were Pauravas, Ayu, Nahusha, and Yayati.

    Yayati had 5 sons and this vedic clan spread to other parts of the world

    1. The Purus (Paurava dynasty) were the Rigvedic people and developed Vedic culture in north central India and the Punjab along the Sarasvati (Rig-veda 7.96.2).This clan later went on to Egypt who became the Pharaohs and rulers of the area

    2. The Anu (Who also started Mleccha or Greek Dynasty) (Mieccha means Barbarians or Non vedic in Sanskrit) of southern Kashmir along the Parushni or modern Ravi River (Rigveda 7.18.13) spread over western Asia and developed the various Iranian cultures.Thus, the ancient Greeks were once a part of Bharata-varsa (India) and the Vedic civilization. But later the people gave up their affiliation with Vedic society and were, therefore, classified as Mlecchas.However, in the Vana-parva section of the Mahabharata it is predicted that this non-Vedic society would one day rule much of the world, except India fulfilling the prophecy. Alexander the Great invaded northern India for the Pulinda or Greek civilization in 326 BCE but got wounded severely and went back to Greece and died.

    Later more clans from Hindu/vedic India moved to Greece.

    Edward Pockoke wrote in “India in Greece” book “The people or clans of Magadha were styled as Grahika with king’s residence area in the city called Raj-Grihi. After Jarasandha’s death his clan Grihikas moved to Greece giving the name of Grihik-Desh to Graikos to Greece. The clans of Magadha settled in North and called their country Magadan to Magadhania to Makedonia to Macedonia.” These Indian migrants included poets, philosophers and scientists also and they founded cities in Mediterranean.

    India’s gift to Greece – Language (Sanskrit), Fables, Epics, literature, high Philosophies. Music, Mathematics, Astronomy, Medicine, sculpture, Town planning, Democracy – European historians have tried to trace democracy to Greece, but the villages of India had practiced democracy since very ancient times. Jabez Sunderland wrote in India in Bondage: “Where did our colonial town-meeting system come from? Our historians trace it to England, Germany and Greece. But they cannot stop with Greece. To find the beginnings, they are obliged to go to Asia and to the village republics of India.” Republics existed in India long before they appeared in Greece.

    3. The Druhyus (who started Bhoja dynasty) northwest of the area of the Punjab and Kashmir spread into Europe and became the western Indo-Europeans,or the Druids or Ancient Celts A first group went northwest and developed the proto-Germanic dialect, and another group traveled farther south and developed the proto-Hellenic and Itallic-Celtic dialects.

    4. Yadu was the originator of the Yadu dynasty called the Yadavas, later known as the Lunar Dynasty. Yayati was deified as Yahweh by the descendants of Yadu who are identified with the Yadus, the Jews of the present day.

    5. Turvasu came the Yavana or Turk dynasty. Another province mentioned in Mahabharata (Adi-parva 85.34) is that of the Yavanas (Turks) who were so named for being descendants of Maharaja Yavana (Turvasu), one of the sons of Maharaja Yayati, They also gave up Vedic culture and became Mlecchas. They fought in the battle of Kuruksetra against the Pandavas on behalf of Duryodhana and lost.

    However, it was predicted that they would one day return to conquer Bharata-varsa (India) and, indeed, this came to pass. Muhammad Ghori later attacked and conquered parts of India on behalf of Islam from the Abhira and Yavana or Turkish countries. Thus, we can see that these provinces in the area of Greece and Turkey (and the countries in between there and India) were once part of the Vedic civilization and had at one time not only political and cultural ties, but also ancestral connections. This is the Vedic version of the origin of Aryan civilization and how its influence spread in various degrees throughout the world.

    These Aryan tribes, originating in India by King Yayati and mentioned in the Rig-veda and Vishnu and Bhagavata Puranas, spread all over the world.

    Source – Rig Veda/Atharva veda (World’s oldest spiritual and scientific book of Hindu/Vedic/.Dharmic civilization

    other tribes of vedic culture who migrated outside India

    The Vishnu Purana (4.3.18-21) also mentions the Shakas who are the Scythians of ancient Central Asia, the Pahlavas who are the Persians, and the Cinas who are the Chinese.

    China

    How people of advanced Hindu/Vedic civilization ruled ancient China and taught them everything from science to high philosophies

    “Taoism is Deva-ism. The Chinese philosopher Lao Tzu propagated the Advaita (non-dual) philosophy of the HinduVedic tradition. The name of his ‘Toa’ philosophy has been completely misunderstood by all scholars who have written on China so far. The Chinese word ‘Tao’ [the ‘T’ pronounced as a ‘D’] is nothing but the Sanskrit word Deva. Consequently Taoism is Chinese Vedic Theism.” The general principles and codes for living like those in the Vedic lifestyle and the spiritual path of Sanatana-Dharma (Hinduism) are also found in the ways of Taoism, the moral principles of Confucius, and Mahayana Buddhism. The Chinese also worship gods, goddesses, and ancestors with mantras, tantras, and ritual. Their beliefs in the creation of the universe, rebirth, karma, and the usefulness of rituals and the assistance of divine powers to humanity are also similar to the Vedic customs. For example, in the Chinese tradition we find the description of the creation to be very similar, in a general sense, to that found in the Vedic literature. They believe that in the beginning everything was once like a single ocean having the divine powers of nature and spirit in subtle form. These mixed and became converted to the male principle Yang and the female principle Yin, as well as heaven and earth. This is similar to the Shiva/Shakti principle in the Vedic tradition.
    In this same line of thought, Count Biornstierna observes on page 85 of his book The Theogony of the Hindus: “What may be said with certainty is that the religion of China came from India.

    China was influenced by India in other ways as well. For example, the alternative form of medicine known as acupuncture is believed to have originated in China. In Korean academies, students are correctly told that acupuncture originated in India. An ancient Sanskrit text on acupuncture is also said to be preserved in the Ceylonese National Museum at Columbo in Sri Lanka.

    Regarding the tall claims on advancements and innovations of Chinese culture made by Joseph Needham. In the book, The Genius of China: 3000 Years of Science, Discovery and Invention, Robert Temple reviews the findings of Joseph Needham at Cambridge University. He says that the Chinese knew and used poison gas and tear gas in the fourth century BCE. They were making cast iron in the fourth century BCE and manufactured steel from cast iron in the second century BCE. They built the first suspension bridge in the first century CE. And they invented matches in 577 CE. This was respectively 2300, 2000, 1800, 1700, and 1000 years before the West. So, as Needham asks, how could the Chinese have been so far in advance of the western civilizations? And if the Chinese mentality was so innovative, then why aren’t they now? Well, Eminent historians suggest, it is because China inherited its advanced knowledge from advanced Hindu/vedic/Indian civilization. Thus, they merely used the earlier established knowledge the ancients already knew. And all arrows point in the direction to the Hindu/Vedic culture of India as being the preceding advanced civilization which shared its knowledge with the world, of which China was aware. Thus, China owed much to India for its early achievements

     
  8. Alex C.

    Sorry, I couldn’t resist the previous impulsive comment. The lengthy comments above deserve to be made into school text books. Now that BJP is in power, maybe it can be done! Should we contact Shiksha Bachao andolan Samiti’s Dina Nath Batra ji (or his Guru/Sponsor Rajiv Malhotra ji) now?

     
  9. Sanjeev Sabhlok

    Only the Almighty can save India. But he would be extremely reluctant to do so after reading Bharat’s comments.

    On a serious note, EACH OF THESE IDEAS HAS TO BE DEMOLISHED through appropriate facts. I’ve noticed that this kind of nonsense spreads very fast on the internet in India. Statements never made by Macaulay have spread faster than the speed of light around the social media. Similarly, this will rapidly spread unless genuine scholars spend time to show it for what it is.

    Even then it will be hard to remove (such things stick easily in the illiterate/ ill-educated Indian mind). But at least one can point to a proper rebuttal.

    Let me ask Arvind Iyer to comment. He probably knows someone who has demolished this type of absurd “proofs”.

     
  10. Arvind Iyer

    The fictitious and baseless etymologies of P N Oak which underlie such “Indians ruled the planet.” fantasies, are found to be implausible by even cheerleaders of revivalist movements in India like Koenraad Elst.
    The Incurable Hindu Fondness for P N Oak
    The speculations of Knapp are discussed here. In any case, reading these comment-trails gives one a sense of weary déjà vu when much-debunked arguments are rehashed by the cut-paste patriots, unaware of how much embarrassment this earns for their cause. The observation in this picture is borne out ceaselessly in such comment-trails. More on the topic of this post, readers would be obliged also if the founder of Patanjali Yogpeeth addresses the concerns raised in this earlier article . It wouldn’t hurt also if randomized control trial results for the efficacy of Shakti Drops is offered.

     
  11. Alex C.

    Sanjeev ji,

    I have encountered such “claims” in the past. My go-to reference to a proper rebuttal is Shri Koenraad Elst (a Hindutva-sympathetic Indologist and Historian): http://koenraadelst.blogspot.in/2010/06/incurable-hindu-fondness-for-pn-oak.html

    In that article, he not only traces the source of three major types of claims (to “historian” PN Oak ji), but debunks them in a genaral manner. The claims being:

    1. Taj Mahal, the Red Fort and a few other well-known Indo-Muslim buildings were really Hindu temples, not built but only usurped by the Muslims.

    2. Vikramaditya (1st cent. BCE) ruled Arabia, a claim that is then linked with the more widespread belief that the Kaaba was originally a Hindu temple featuring a Shiva Lingam.

    3. …names of places and people around the globe are of Sanskrit origin and thus testify to the omnipresence and omnipotence of the ancient Hindus.

    You’ll notice that many of Bharatji’s claims fall under these headings. Shri Elst says to this: “All three are fanciful and totally unfounded,” and then proceeds to debunk them. Good reading.

     
  12. Rahul Rana

    “Only the Almighty can save India. But he would be extremely reluctant to do so after reading Bharat’s comments.”

    :-) :-)

     
  13. Iniyavel Sugumar

    Sir,

    If you don’t mind, I’ll clear up this mess.

    In fact, there’s a similar unverifiable myth that’s doing rounds on the Internet that India was ruling all regions from Palisthan (Israel/Palestine) going all the way North up to the Urals in Russia and all the way East up to Viet Nam since 7000 BCE till before the rise of Judaism (apparently Judaism was started by disgraced excommunicated Brahmins from a certain state in India). Before 7000 BCE, the whole world was under India’s rule (Bharata Varsha). All unverifiable fantabulous claims that make rounds, prominently among the super nationalists and super conspiracy theorists. Sources for such unverifiable claims with absolutely no proof whatsoever are linked here, here, and here.

    More unverifiable bullshit here.

    And as our friend Bharat has rightfully showcased himself here, they are sadly in the LEGIONS. And he (and others like him) gets his fuel from fanatics and super patriot types like this, this, and this. Though there might be some truths in their claims (which is equally doubtful), they are mostly muzzled with propaganda and hyperbole.

    The irony of all these claims is that most of these super nationalists in reality sit in USA, Canada, Australia/New Zealand, etc. and talk about India’s greatness. They say the West stole ideas for their technology from the Vedas almost every time we confront them as to why India lags behind most nations. And when I question them as to why India doesn’t produce her own weapons, the only response I get is: “DUH!” Never once have I seen them take up responsibility for their beloved nation.

    True nationalists don’t sit behind computer screens under fake IDs and troll everyone else on Twitter, Facebook, etc. as to how great their nation WAS, but instead work really hard to make their nation great in this era. True nationalists don’t leave their nation to socialist systems and bandits and enjoy the benefits of the capitalist world (and at the same time talk about the greatness of their nation). True nationalists don’t threaten fellow citizens behind fake IDs under the pretext of religion or caste or any other criterion. Unfortunately our super nationalist types fail on all 3 counts and that itself makes them more or less enemies of their beloved nation instead of patriots.

    Last but not the least, most of them are unreasonable and completely devoid of logic. For them, corruption by their favorite party (the current ruling party) doesn’t count as corruption, but the previous government is solely to blame, even after more than one year of government change (not to say that members of the previous government were angels, but to highlight the hypocrisy of our “nationalists”). They forget that the nation matters more than the party ruling it. In other words, corrupting the very meaning of “nationalism,” and everyone else is to blame.

    The first step towards nationalism is TAKING RESPONSIBILITY. But our beloved friends fail on that, and very badly, and yet they call themselves “nationalists”.

    How do I know? I was once among them (for fun reasons, though a bit long, from January to October last year). But seeing their activities made me nauseate. Once I left them behind, I started to think rationally and logically. Sir I have read your SKC Agenda and BFN too, and though I have some differences with you (which is not the crux of my argument here), I appreciate your work and the work of your team FTI, and wish you great success in your dreams.

    Thank You.

    With Sincere Regards,

    Iniyavel Sugumar
    ..

     
  14. Ramesh Baliga

    There is no proof that India ( Bharat) ruled the world. But there is proof that the extent of geography in which wars and struggle for territorial domination happened in Indian history extended up to Iran in west and Assam in east.
    The influence of Indian thought and presence extended up to Vietnam, Lao, Cambodia, Thailand , Indonesia in east Asia and up to Mongolia in North this includes China.
    Many common first names used in Indonesia, Lao and Thailand are corruption of Indian names.
    The presence of Hindu temples in Cambodia, Indonesia, Lao,Thailand is well known but remains of Hindu temples can be found in Vietnam too.
    Striking phonetic similarities of sanskrit with European languages point to similar etymology . Words like Matru, Mater,Pitru , pater,derm ( skin) and chirm ( sanskrit skin) point to some connection which historians have not been able to explain to satisfaction of all the scholars.
    Our historians for that matter british historians have never tried to explain our cultural influence and presence of Hindu/ Buddhist temples in Lao and Cambodia. The striking similarity of Cambodians with Indians and their cattle breeds which are similar to indian cattle breeds speak of racial mixing.
    Our history needs to be studied properly and with indian prespective using myths archaeological evidences by Indians so that all the crap that is paddled as history by both leftist and ultra nationalists is debunked. History has become a tool for peddling ideology and falsehoods are being repeated again and again

     
  15. Amol

    Hey i ll give u some clue which will support baba ramdev’s statement…for europe 1)stonehenge-This stone henge have carving of indian cobra n elephants.Such cobra was never present in Europe as wll as elephants to.similar to this ukraim stonehenge personally visited by Vladamir putin in Urals Russia where recently very old statue of Lord vishnu has been found.Same stonehenge we have in nagaland.English stonehenge muchh bigger than others.But all this stobehenge have 27 slits.Its nothing but NAKASHTRA of hindu astronomy.stonehenges were build for astronomical purpose.2) AMERICA- mayan culture name mayan is sansakrit word as we all know .very old statue of hanuman is there it is also on wikipedia.Idols with multiple hand having weapons is there.As only HINDUS have such idols.same ancient culture of aztec n in peru will enough to prove this many other researcher agreed on this.3) now indonesia,vietnam,combodia,malysia still have the old hindu temple..eg ANGKOR VAT…n use ur perception as well to understand this…for further things refer AJIT VADAKAYIL blog.HE explained all things very well

     
  16. Sanjeev Sabhlok

    “stonehenge-This stone henge have carving of indian cobra n elephants” – this is a piece of bull – typical Hindutva nonsense.

    Pl. provide evidence. There is none. How many lies do people like you want to spread?

     
  17. Sona

    I don’t know what the issues with Swami Ramdev and Sanjeev are. But I do know that there is ample evidence that there is a Vedic legacy found all over the world and linguistic clues, archaeological evidence and similarities in some beliefs and cultures do suggest a strong Vedic influence. For example please see this link: http://norse-mythology.org/symbols/swastika-ancient-origins-modern-misuse/. It mentions the word ‘Porshammar’ which sounds very similar to Parshuram, who too used to wield and axe/hammer (swastika?). Also see links: http://www.hinduwisdom.info/India_and_Egypt.htm. and http://www.richardcassaro.com/the-ancient-secret-of-the-swastika-the-hidden-history-of-the-white-race-p-1-of-2. http://krishnaparis.com/en/?q=ancient-idol-lord-vishnu-found-russias-volga-region. http://beforeitsnews.com/unexplained-phenomena/2012/10/5000-year-old-ufo-vimana-discovered-in-afghanistan-2430818.html
    While we can see how Sanjeev has always been anti-RSS and anti-Modi etc. It would be good if he stopped pointing fingers like a petulant child and did some independent research like some of us do. Most info is just a fingertip away on google. If you still cannot believe maybe you should go on a trip yourself and check things out. And by the way, why are you so much against this theory anyways? Are you a coconut who cannot bear the thought of your white masters being inferior to ancient Vedic Aryas? They were neanderthals while Vedic aryas had done space travel. See this clip on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xS_BzQuO0Q. Russian kgb officer took ww2 NS documents and translated them. Their he found instructions to about 5000 year old Aryan martial art. Now he is teaching it in Russia.
    I think Sanjeev is a very sad sad loser who cannot appreciate his own Vedic heritage! Tsk Tsk.

     
  18. Sanjeev Sabhlok

    Publishing this nonsense as evidence of the kind of falsehoods propagated by the Hindutva brigade.

    Living on lies. What kind of life do these people live?

     
  19. PARMESHWAR SWATANTRA SINGH

    Mahodaya,
    agar aap baat manana hi nhi chahtey hain toh fir kyu apne ye agenda uthaya hai ,kyuki ARYAVRATT ka naam toh sabhi ne suna hai aur itni baton ke baad bhi pata nhi ki aap kyu manane ko tayar nhi hain…..chaliye ek chota sa example….
    agar kisi khooni ki ungaliyon ke nishaan do jagah mil jatey hain toh mana yhi jata hai aamtor par ki ye dononishaan ek hi aadami ke hain…aur unhe sabot(evidence) jiski talash me aap ghoom rhe hain ke tor par hi dekha jata hai….aur jab ek jaisi baatien do deshon me milti hain wo bhi itni jyada mel khati hui toh yahi kaha ja sakta hai ki wo ek desh se doosre desh gyi hongi matlab dono ek hi jagah se belong karti hain kyunki do alag jagah ki Sabhyata ek jaisi nhi ho sakti wo bhi itni door wale do deshon ki toh bilkul bhi nhi kyuki sabhyata ka sambandh jalwayu se hai aur wo alag alag hain…
    kyunki jalwayu se khan pan,pehnawa,riti riwaz baaki sabhi baatien janm leti hain..
    toh mana kewal ye ja sakta hai ki ya wo Bharat SE WAHAN GYI YA WAHAN SE YAHAN AAYI……
    ab bas ye jan lijiye ki tathyon ke anusaar Bharat jyada purana hai ya wo desh jinki baat ho rhi hai aap khud hi samjh jayengey

     

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