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Something is wrong about Philippa Langley’s story about finding Richard III

You might have heard about this weird story in today's papers. (see boxes below)

I'm writing to note that I find this part of the reported story VERY FISHY AND PROBLEMATIC.

I've never come across any proven case of paranormal power anywhere in the world. There does NOT exist, as far as I know, any telepathy or paranormal "power".

Philippa is the only "witness" for this. The only way to PROVE that she is speaking the truth would be for her to provide documentary evidence that she wrote/spoke about this experience around the time it occurred. While that wouldn't rule out lying, it would reduce the chance that she's cooked up this story to gain free publicity for her movie/s.

As part of her research Langley visited the car park which had been pointed out as the most likely site of the royal interment.

“I walked that car park and I just knew there was nothing there.  It was ‘dead’.

"As I walked away, I saw another, private car park over to the right. I know how mad this sounds, but I snuck under the barrier and, on a very particular spot, I had the strongest sensation that I was walking on Richard’s grave.  On a subsequent visit, I found a little white ‘R’ painted on the exact same spot. Of course it was ‘R’ for ‘reserved’, not ‘R’ for Richard but from that moment on, I was on a mission.” [Source]

or this:

Miss Langley was strolling across the car park used by Leicester social services while researching a play about the king when she felt a chill in August 2009.

According to The Sunday Times, she said: 'It was a hot summer and I had goosebumps so badly and I was freezing cold. I walked past a particular spot and absolutely knew I was walking on his grave.

'I am a rational human being but the feeling I got was the same feeling I have had before when a truth is given to me.'

Miss Langley initially funded the excavation of what is now a Leicester City Council car park because she was '99 per cent certain' that the remains were those of Richard. [Source]

Sanjeev Sabhlok

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21 thoughts on “Something is wrong about Philippa Langley’s story about finding Richard III
  1. CAW

    Someting wrong??? So years of redsearch is now being called into question. This was someone who had spend hundreds of hours of research and happend to say on camera that she had a strange feeling…we hav all had those, yet you say it was paranormal?
    anything supernatural.. you clearly didn’t take the time to watch or read what was actually said editing has a lot to do with it.No one mentioned ‘paranormal’ oexcept you and clearly wanting to disrespect someone for saying what we all say hundreds of times in our lives…. I’I had a feeling’ !!! Really!!!!!

     
  2. Sanjeev Sabhlok

    Sorry, I don’t get any “feeling”. I also question the possibility that someone can get such a feeling and be persuaded enough to fund it/ persuade others to do things like digging up car parks.

    The starting point of this dig is incorrect. There has to be a better explanation. Instead, it has been dramatised and choreographed to make it sound exciting.

    If the feeling (and it was a physical response – goosebumps, etc.) was actually the start of this process, then this requires thorough investigation. How can anyone’s dead bones possibly ‘radiate’ information?

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  3. Lydia Harper

    Who cares what she said? The point is that she had the push and the drive to put forward her research and commit to a location that she thought was worth excavating. It’s not as though she wandered every street of England wandering around hoping to have a “feeling”, she was there because of her research. Whether that feeling was her imagination or whatever isn’t relevant. Clearly her research was correct if they found his bones. You’re completely missing the point.

     
  4. Sanjeev Sabhlok

    Lydia

    I wish she had said what you are saying: that the spot was determined through her RESEARCH. What she is claiming is extrasensory power. That’s a bunch of rubbish, designed to make her story populist and create a myth around herself.

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  5. Stuart

    The starting point of this dig is incorrect.
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    well to be pedantic the starting point of the dig was correct as thats where they found his body. NB see the recent research re potential telepathy in rats, the Elephant Whisperer incident – its very arrogant for us to presume that we ‘know’ everything about the universe or the world

     
  6. Stuart

    btw your headline makes it sound like some sort of conspiracy that put his remains there to then be found, when from what I can see that’s not what you are saying.

     
  7. Sanjeev Sabhlok

    Now you are talking. My concern is with the hocus pocus involved in the claim that some ESP was involved in locating the spot.

    I make the STRONG assertion that telepathy is nonsense. James Randi’s $1 million has been lying there and NOT ONE claimant has been able to get it. Why cite uncontrolled experiments? Why not these people just go and get the $1 million. Then I’ll pay attention to such claims.

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  8. Sanjeev Sabhlok

    It is fishy. The claim she is making is very suspicious. I believe it is false, and designed to make the common man more interested in this story. Drama. Marketing. Spin.

     
  9. HAMISH

    SANJEEV: YEE OF LITTLE FAITH I HAVE THE SPIRETS WITH ME ALL THE TIME HEARS SOME THING FOR THE TIME TO COME THERE WILL BE A KING RICHARD IV AND FOR A KING OF SCOTS, IRELAND, WALES, AND ITS NOT FROM THE ENGLISH ROYAILS

     
  10. John Hillman

    The FACT that the skeleton was found in the FIRST excavation at the spot where she says she had the feeling does nothing to persuade you. Her RESEARCH led her to the general area. The spot they dug was just "random, dumb luck"?

     
  11. Sanjeev Sabhlok

    I am aware of the alleged facts. This matter – if true – is more interesting and important than Richard III’s entire life and story. It purports to allege that there is a supernatural realm which interacts with us. I disagree entirely with such hypothesis. 

    I’d like a thorough investigation done on these alleged facts. A million dollar  (Randi foundation) awaits anyone who can prove clairvoyance.

     
  12. Frankie

    Regardless of her ‘feeling’, the fact is that SHE WAS RIGHT and she found Richard III right where she said he was. That it is the late King is beyond doubt. How or why she knew, or purported to know, is beyond me. Clearly, she believed enough in her intuition to go to considerable lengths to prove her theory right.

    I think, in conclusion, that there are many things in this world that are beyond the explicable.

     
  13. John Ashley

    Sanjeev, you’re a cynic. I’ve had similar feelings to Phillipa several times, very strongly when passing the site of Belsen concentration camp in Germany. At the time I had no idea where any of these places was. A similar experience in Glen Coe, but I knew the history of the location. I’ve walked through a ghost, that experience scared me silly, and been aware of the presence of my deceased wife whilst visiting a neighbour shortly after my bereavement. The neighbours dog attracted us both to the event although my neighbour could not sense the presence. Don’t tell us that it does not exist Sanjeev, just because you have no such experience. John

     
  14. Lin

    Surprised at your comment. : “I’ve never come across any proven case of paranormal power anywhere in the world. There does NOT exist, as far as I know, any telepathy or paranormal “power”. ”

    There are numerous anecdotes of intuition, paranormal etc that were documented all over the world! Please google.

    I for one have had many such moments. Once I was walking on an unfamiliar road, and I had an uncomfortable feeling, my intuition ‘felt’ that it was something to do with dead people, and as I continued to walk, several yards later, I passed the mortuary of a hospital!

    That was just ONE of the many things I have felt.

    So, what is REALLY your bone of content and INTENTION with your writing? Anything fishy in your plate?

     
  15. Sanjeev Sabhlok

    Lin, I am unable to comment on your personal experience. However, there is no laboratory controlled proven case of telepathy. If there was, a $1 million Randi Foundation award would have been collected long ago. Not ONE aspirant could prove any supernormal power. It lies uncollected.

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  16. Michael

    Soorry, If you have never found any proven case of paranormal activity, then your credibility on this is zip, nada, and you haven’t been trying very hard.

    I think what you mean to say is that there’s plenty of evidence, and lots of legitimate published research, but you choose to believe none of it, and find tenuous reasons, criteria that you would never dream of applying to research that you choose to believe, to reject all of it.

     
  17. Sanjeev Sabhlok

    I have not found any in my personal life, nor any reason for it to exist.

    Second, any paranormal claimant has been free to get $1 million from Randi. Zip. Tens if not hundreds have tried. Zip.

    You are welcome to believe in Pure Nonsense. Your prerogative. 

    All religious believers in any event believe in Pure Nonsense. That’s their right. That doesn’t make their believes valid from any objective perspective.

     
  18. Jim Dean

    I have never had any strange experiences myself, never seen a ghost or UFO never had any ‘feelings’ about places but I feel that to blindly dismiss such things as untruths is probably to ‘throw the baby out with the bathwater’ .The Amazing Randi’s prize will never be claimed simply because his credibility as a hardline skeptic would be destroyed if definitive proof of the ‘paranormal’ were ever to be presented to him. Many skeptics are verging on being unswerving believers in skepticism – almost a religion I would say. I hope that science can distance itself from this disturbing trend and conduct itself in a fresh and open minded way. My guess is that there is no paranormal, there is just stuff that science can’t or won’t get it’s head around – yet.

    Jim

     
  19. Sanjeev Sabhlok

    Randi’s tests are ABSOLUTELY foolproof and there is ABSOLUTELY no paranormal or “miracles”.
     

     
  20. Alison Barley

    I watched the documentary ‘king under a car park’ and found it fascinating, by the end of the program I had convinced myself that Phillippa was a reincarnation of Richard 3rd, in a strange way her face even looked like the reconstruction of his face !
    Today I have been to the exhibition in Leicester and what’s even more strange is that I found out Richard 3rd’s great, great grandmother’s name was PHILLIPPA ! Whilst opinions vary on Phillippa Langley’s ‘feeling’, I would just say that coincidence can be a very strange thing indeed.

     

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