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Freedom -the key part of “Freedom Team of India”: Re: Shantanu Bhagwat’s clarification

I'm pleased Shantanu has put out a blog post that clarifies how FTI functions.

We need greater FREEDOM in India, and that means the ability to think critically for ourselves.

The other day, Ashwin Mahesh wrote on his Facebook account, thus;

If you're watching the movie Lincoln, do pause to notice something unusual. The President and the Secretary of State of the US are shown throughout the movie, canvassing for the INDIVIDUAL votes of each member on an important vote. Not the votes of the parties, but the INDIVIDUAL votes of EACH member. So, let's ask ourselves – why do we never see that in India?

When was the last time that there was a vote in either Assembly or Parliament, and you wondered how each member might vote? Sure, every now and then there are votes in which we wonder how each party might vote, but never since 1983 has it mattered how each representative would vote.

There is a simple truth in Indian legislatures. Individual members have no standing whatsoever. They are simply required to vote as directed by their parties on every issue. A lot of people think that's normal – after all they have been elected on party tickets, so why should they not obey the party? 

The answer is in the question itself, and clearly in the movie. Every Democrat whose vote is sought by Lincoln has been elected on the party ticket, and yet he is free to vote AS HE CHOOSES on every bill. All over the world this is the practice.

Being a member of a party does not mean that EVERYONE in the party has only ONE MIND.

A party that cannot tolerate diversity of views among its own members is no party at all. It is simply using the instruments of law as a convenience for its power grab, and in the process, doing a great disservice to India.

The Whip used to ensure party 'discipline' does nothing of that sort, for there is nothing to discipline in the first place. If parties really want disciplined members, they could easily select them on the basis of their agreement to a common ideology. But they don't do that. Instead, the 'tickets' are just that – and they have no stature at all. Trying to compensate for this by using a Whip defeats democracy itself.

Let's just say that if ever FTI members form a party, they will not form a party of zombies. This has been repeatedly agreed on FTI. We value liberty above all. We are no one's slaves or stooges. There will be NO High Command on any party that FTI assembles. There will be TOTAL FREEDOM of expression.

Yes, on FTI we only agree on quite a few things after extensive, debate and these we then publish. But even these are subject to further amendment after discussion. 

The KEY message of classical liberalism is individual liberty and continuous improvement/ continuous discovery of the truth. 

What brought me to Shantanu's blog was the title of his blog: Satyameva Jayate.

After I'm dead and gone (not too far now, already 53 years closer to that point), let it never be said of me that I compromised on the truth for the sake of power. I spit on power, glamour, fashion, anything. Only the truth matters. 

So when you speak with me you speak with ME AS A PERSON, not ME AS A ZOMBIE. Unless I'm persuaded of a particular truth, I don't support it. That also means I can (and do) change my mind when evidence emerges that I was wrong. 

To me far, far greater – by a order of magnitude – than India, is truth.

Ultimately, the truth will help us, not blind nationalism.

So yes, we can and do have very vigorous differences of opinion between FTI members. A classic example was the difference of perspective on RSS (the orgnisation) between Shantanu and I. I've slightly changed my views on this (but not totally).  Other differences on FTI include our view re: the work that Arvind Kejriwal is doing, etc. 

Let me add that among all FTI members I value those the most who DIFFER from me with reason (even as they agree to the concept of liberty). From them I learn, not from stooges and "followers". 

So here's a toast to FREEDOM – something unknown and unheard of in India.

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Publishing Arvind Kejriwal’s email of 17 November 2012

In his response, Surajit Dasgupta asked, "I am told by one of your fellow activists at FTI, Kejriwal had shot back at you, ‘Do you think you are the only wise economist around?’ Is this true?"

Since you have raised this matter publicly (I did not feel it appropriate earlier to publish Arvind's email: and I think I know which FTI "activist" you are referring to – btw, we are not "activists" we are members), I will now publicly set the record straight – so everyone can see Arvind's approach to those who wish to engage with him.

The following is what Arvind wrote, after nearly 15 emails to him to which he did not respond, following on a meeting in February in which he said he'd read BFN and get back to me.

This was my email to a few people WITH A COPY TO ARVIND (without ANY expectation that he'd respond, since he'd not responded to previous 10-15 emails

Arvind has studiously refused to engage with me despite making a promise in February to read my book and get back to me. He keeps insisting on taking India down the path of socialism. That I will fight against.

If Arvind doesnt' change, I will offer to publicly debate him and his many (not all) incorrect ideas.

But first let me PUBLICLY teach Arvind a few things about economics – if he is REALLY interested in India's future, and not merely in his own ideas.

Arvind, please read: http://sabhlokcity.com/2012/11/economics-lesson-1-for-arvind-kejriwal-an-economics-illiterate/

You are capable of taking the debate on corruption right to the "top". I'm capable of publicly putting down your wrong ideas.

You are a good man but I will not have one more "good" man who takes India down the death trap called socialism.

{Sanjeev: I'd like to add that if you go back to the first of these emails – not this 15th one, you'd note a much more positive note. But given Arvind's insistence on not responding, nor remembering his commitments, you can sense a bit of exasperation in this email of mine.}

Arvind's response

I have read ur mail and ur blog. I don't remember receiving any communication from u earlier. But I must admit that it is quite likely that u might have sent mails and I might have missed replying to them as I receive several mails everyday, though I try my best to respond to as many as possible.

Ur mail seems almost a threat – I am supposed to accept what u say, else ….

Ur blog quotes statements supposed to have been said by me, which I never said. Looks like some kind of a propaganda to deliberately confuse people against us? Since I never said those statements, on which ur entire blog is based, I can't even comment on it specifically.

I just have a small suggestion. Kindly don't treat urself as the last expert on economics and impose urself as a "teacher" on all political parties. All of us learn all our lives. Let's not lose that basic humility. [Sanjeev: This was as insulting as one can get! Where did I even remotely suggest that I was the "last expert" on economics. Second, how DARE Arvind lecture me about humility without knowing me! I'm as full of myself as water spilled on the floor. I have let this silly childishness of Arvind pass.]

Kindly do not draw any conclusions if I am unable to respond back to ur mails in future. I can only assure u that I wud most certainly read ur mails and discuss all good ideas suggested by u with our team.

Best wishes

Arvind Kejriwal.

My response to Arvind:

Arvind

Thanks for your first response. Let me first reiterate that I believe you are a good man, that's why I interact (or try to interact) with you. Total integrity is my first requirement before I meet or discuss anything with anyone.

I appreciate you are very busy as so didn't respond to more than 15 emails to date (pl. check your records) but I'm disappointed that you seem to have entirely forgotten my personal meeting with you in February this year in which I not only recommended that you join politics, but that you join FTI and read BFN. You promised to read my book and get back to me. Please note the record of this meeting on my blog:
http://sabhlokcity.com/2012/02/dear-arvind-the-only-path-to-corruption-free-india-is-through-policies-of-liberty/

This blog post and associate photo might ring a bell. You had clearly promised to get back to me after reading my book (which I not only send you earlier, but am attaching once again). If you make promises you don't intend to keep, I suggest you don't make them.

Now for your view that you haven't said anything about fixing prices of essential commodities. So how do you explain these:
a) The news: http://in.news.yahoo.com/12-things-that-arvind-kejriwal-s-party-promises.html
b) The Hindi PDF released by your group recently: http://sanjeev.sabhlokcity.com/Misc/IACmanifesto-hindi.pdf

I'm attaching a screen shot to remind you about what you've been saying. I can't read inside our mind, but from what you publish I believe you could benefit from basic economics.

I'm happy to spend as many hours (over phone) as you think you need to clarify your mind on basic ideas about governance and economics.

Let me remind you at this point about the Freedom Team of India (which I introduced you to, at our meeting) – being a team of leaders I've been organising since 2007 to lead India politically. It is a preparatory platform, that is focused on finding India's best leaders. We have recently organised a national policy competition with Rs.5 lakhs prize: http://freedomteam.in/blog/content/all-india-policy-writing-competition. Please read the competition documents, particularly the policy template. These are expected to be eye-opening for most Indians.

Arvind, I'm humble enough to realise that I don't know everything. But don't worry about my 30 years of knowledge of economics and public administration. It is irrelevant that I was in the IAS, taught at the National Academy, got some of the world's best scholarships, did a PhD, wrote a book, and work as a senior adviser in the world's best government system. That's just noise.

But consider the fact that I'm advocating ideas which India's greatest economist: Chanakya, advocated, in his Arthashastra. Chanakya had a brilliant solution for corruption (which has nothing even remotely to do with Lokpal). Chanakya was more sophisticated in his views than almost anyone alive in the world today.

Sure, I may well be a fool, Arvind – and the world will soon find out – but I do know that in liberty lies the solution to India's (and the world's) problems.

I suggest you consider keeping your promise to read my book.

Please note that I'm into total politics and total reform of India since 1998 (I resigned from IAS in 2001 to pursue that path to reform), and I'm dead opposed to any hint of socialism.

FTI has a very strong set of leaders in Delhi. I urge you to contact Somnath Bharti (head of your legal cell) to organise a meeting with Delhi FTI chapter which includes not just IITians and ex-senior officers from armed forces, but supreme court lawyers, and entrepreneurs.

Either way, I trust you will oppose socialism with all your might.

Even if I get the slightest whiff of socialism I attack it with all my might. Having you join forces against this DEATH TRAP would be good.

Regards

Arvind never bothered to reply to this, nor has engaged in any further correspondence/discussion.

I trust this clarifies, Surajit. Yes, Arvind did insult me VERY badly, as you can readily see.

But I have taken it in my stride, just like you have called me all sorts of names and compared me with Pakistanis. ["Pakistani representatives’ who respond to India’s allegations pertaining to the Kargil War, the 26/11 terrorist attacks and beheading of our soldiers"]. This kind of childishness doesn't bother me.

I'm just not bothered if people insult me. Your (and others') insults wash off my mind like water off a duck's back.

Those who know me understand that I don't care for such claptrap. None of this detracts me from my 100 per cent focus on results for India. I'm ONLY bothered that we get the right policy solutions for India.

And, btw, I don't hold such things against people. So you're fine! People like you or Arvind can insult me as much as you wish. Enjoy, Surajit, if it helps you!

He keeps saying that he is "open" to ideas, but I've never come across a man more closed to discussion of ideas he doesn't yet understand. But this is common textbook economics. And he is totally closed to understanding basic economics.

As a result of this experience, though, while I continue to copy one or two emails to Arvind, I will NEVER make any attempt to meet or talk to him.

He must take the initiative if he wants to find out why I may have something useful to say. I might, however, in due course of time (and if absolutely necessary), challenge him to a public debate. That might be the only way to enter his TOTALLY CLOSED mind.

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Btw, on a separate point, my way of analysing long comments received is by starting a new blog post in which I carefully read and annotate them. So please don't mind if I publish a separate blog post on your response. Yes, and we will also talk on Facebook as well.

But Facebook is private. I prefer public discussion.

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Sarbajit Roy, please respond to this rebuttal of your allegations re: Kejriwal

Following up from my post yesterday, thanks to AD for providing a detailed response. I will shortly send this blog post off to Sarbajit Roy.

We all need to get to the bottom of the alleged "issue" re: Arvind's integrity. In the past I have personally asked a question re: Arvind's use of foreign funds for (what to me seemed) political purposes. (That is one reason why FTI does not accept any foreign funding). However, it could be argued that what Arvind did pre-AAP was civil society advocacy, not political work. Can foreigners lobby for change in laws in India? I don't think so, but Arvind thinks they can, and perhaps the Indian law allows it.

But the Sarbajit allegations yesterday were quite serious. However, from AD's response a few seem to have been addressed.

But first, who exactly is Sarbajit Roy? I checked wikipedia. Sarbajit is a person almost exactly my age, having completed his engineering degree in 1980 (I completed my bachelors degree in science in 1979). He probably knows my old school classmates BC Krishna (from KV Picket, Secunderabad) and Neeran Chhiber (from Timpany School, Visakhapatnam) well, since they studied at Pilani at about the same time as he did.

But more importantly, Sarbajit has some extremely fine achievements to his credit in the field of transparency in public life. He now runs the IAC (The IAC has a long and interesting history (see Wikipedia). He is currently part of the IAC mailing list on riseup. See also details here. – I've not had time to read everything, but I find this really interesting).

Prima facie, it appears Sarbajit Roy would not normally make statements without basis. I hope he can prove his allegations more clearly, else he risks being ignored by everyone.

Sir, the only thing 'explosive' about the allegations is the filthy language used. I don't give a rat's a** about what his role was in exposing Pramod Mahajan – for nobody knows his allegianes or motives for doing so.

Not a single attempt was spared by this person to sling mud at Kejri, and not a single one of these merits any response from anybody, let alone Kejri:

[Sanjeev: I disagree. I believe that Sarbajit has sufficient credentials to make allegations, which must be responded. I'm broadly happy with your attempt to respond but would prefer that AK put out an FAQ to rebut all public charges made against him. AK is now in public life, and claims to be totally clean - a claim with with I currently agree. However, if he doesn't respond to allegations, his image can get slowly get sullied in the public mind.]

#1 Why does Arvind not speak (as a ex-Tata employee) about the mega money which Ratan Tata's trusts donated to his NGOs and if there is any conflict of interest.
Why did neither Reliance(ADAG)  or Tatas (NDPL) get Arvind arrested forbijli theft last year in Delhi, for which any lesser mortal goes to the cooler.

The 'mega money' he is talking about was 25 lakhs, which was given not to Arvind or AAP but to IAC, years ago – to raise awareness for RTI. This was published as a malicious news (I think by our infamous Sekhar Gupta of Indian Express). Even a paltry sum Rs.50,000 donated by Bikhchandani – founder of Naukri.com was make to sound like Arvind is being heavily funded & backed by certain corporates (with hidden motives).

http://www.livemint.com/Politics/r4ygt6CfOAQo5S2Yr6qu8K/Narayana-Murthy-too-denies-any-donations-to-Arvind-Kejriwa.html

http://post.jagran.com/Arvind-Kejriwals-trust-receives-donations-from-business-houses-1352016171

He was probably not arrested by Delhi police as to not create another controversy:  make a hero out of him by arresting him.  [Sanjeev: the bijli charges have not been rebutted]

To imply that Tatas and Ambanis are protecting him – well what could be more hilarious when Arvind has launched such a public campaign against Reliance. [Sanjeev: What about Tatas? "For every Reliance Telecom there is a Tata-TeleServices  which benefits from the same policy Reliance did. For every BSES there is also a Tata Power and so on." Sarbajit's comment is problematic for it questions AK's apparent favourtism and glossing over the crimes of those who have funded him. Why single out Ambani is his question. Btw, I've held that Tatas are equally crony capitalists and fund corrupt political parties. I trust AK is applying his mind to ALL crony capitalist.]

#2 what happened to AAP's LokPal which was inquiring into his close cronies Anjali Damania, Mayank Gandhi and PRASHANT BHUSHAN scandals ???

The internal lokpal is for the internal 'cleansing' of the party. If you have strong allegations/evidence – you are welcome to file complaints/cases against them.

There has been a delay because there is no 'formal complainant' – and without a formal complainant the judges say that it will be difficult to hear cases – as there will be nobody to fight a strong case against the accused. [Sanjeev: Sarbajit - please file any formal complaint that you may have. AD this also raises the question: why announce an inquiry when there is no complaint?]

#3 will the Joker duo deny  that they only formed a political party to themselves EVADE TAXES on the unaccounted funds collected during the IAC movement  - why only expenditure in PCRF's accounts – where is the income ?

Oh yes indeed, this is their ingenious plan to 'evade taxes' – *form a political party*. Haha. I don't even know – why I am wasting my time answering these malafide allegations, but here goes:

they have gotten their accounts audited over 3 times per year by external agencies and all details are on website. They do not even accept money from people who cannot provide ID/proof (i.e anonymous donations).

So when they had a list of all donors published on their website (for PCRF) – and yet this idiot says – "where is the income, there are only expenses in their accounts". At least get your facts right.

Sanjeev sir, I think with these explanations – the true motives of the person sending you these emails should be amply clear. [Sanjeev: This allegation, which was the most serious one, seems to have been addressed well. Unfortunately, for lack of time I've not verified the claim of AD, but Sarbajit, you should do so, and let us know whether this information is correct. Sarbajit, you should also retract and apologise for any unsubstantiated allegation.]

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Explosive allegations against Arvind Kejriwal. I trust he will soon respond.

What am I to make of these allegations against Arvind Kejriwal (see in red)? I trust he has seen these and will soon respond. I have always held him in high esteem as a person of integrity. I hope Sarabjit Roy is wrong. [I've removed email IDs]

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———- Forwarded message ———-
From: Sarbajit Roy

Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 19:21:24 +0530
Subject: [IAC#RG] Interesting: Arvind Kejriwal's letter to Mukesh Ambani
To: indiaresists <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net

>

Dear Mr. Sabhlok  [Sanjeev: this is my father Sarbajit is writing to. I don't know Sarbajit]

If you want to want to forward me yet another string of unsubstantiable
allegations by the publicity seeking Laurel and Hardy duo of Kejriwal and
Bhushan please at least do me the courtesy of getting your basic facts
correct.

For your information, I was the main person who got Mr. Pramod Mahajan
removed for the 2003 RIL telecom scam and got RIL to pay up mucho fines and
penalties,  so I don't need instructions from anyone.

FYI, the 1 crores RIL shares were given to 3 companies and not to Mr.
Pramod Mahajan. I don't know with what basis this joker duo can prove that
they were given (or later withdrawn) to Mahajan as a quid pro quo.  If they
have proof let them go to court or CBI and prove their allegations instead
of spamming my inbox with their half baked garbage. The last I heard the
CBI had been politically reactivated in June 2011 to reopen this matter and
it is very old dead horse which AAP is trying to flog.

If Arvind is so very truly concerned about these telecom scandals, surely
he knows that Reliance and Tatas always operate together in these PPP
scams. For every Reliance Telecom there is a Tata-TeleServices  which
benefits from the same policy Reliance did. For every BSES there is also a
Tata Power and so on. Why does Arvind not speak (as a ex-Tata employee)
about the mega money which Ratan Tata's trusts donated to his NGOs and if
there is any conflict of interest.

Why did neither Reliance(ADAG)  or Tatas (NDPL) get Arvind arrested for
bijli theft last year in Delhi, for which any lesser mortal goes to the
cooler.

and BTW, what happened to AAP's LokPal which was inquiring into his close
cronies Anjali Damania, Mayank Gandhi and PRASHANT BHUSHAN scandals ???

and PS:  will the Joker duo deny  that they only formed a political party
to themselves EVADE TAXES on the unaccounted funds collected during the IAC
movement  - why only expenditure in PCRF's accounts – where is the income ?

Kindly circulate my reply to your network.

Warmly
Sarbajit

2013/1/25 Prem Sabhlok

> Dear Sh Vinay Shankar,
> Indian Socialism has diluted the concept of Mixed economy and encouraged
> large scale corrupt practices both in private and public enterprises. Such
> corrupt practices happen in all socialist countries. Indian brand of
> socialism has led to all kind of social, moral and political evils.
> Socialist countries tend to break into small enimical states like powerful
> erstwhile Union of Soviet Socialist Republic (USSR).
> Businesmen like Ambani only flourish in Socialism and honest genuine
> Industrialists suffer owing to their high moral character.
>
> Regards
> Prem Sabhlok
>
>

> ——————————

> Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 13:11:02 +0530
> Subject: Re: FW: Interesting: Arvind Kejriwal's letter to Mukesh Ambani
> From:
> To:
>
> Dear Shri Sabhlok,
> This incident shows the there should be limits to freedom of free
> enterprise. Who will impose the limits? It is the government that should
> have regulations. This takes us towards socialism. Socialism does not only
> mean state running enterprises;
> Thus the state should have a judicious mix of state control and free
> enterprise with efficient, transparent and effective governance.
> The key to development is good governance. But as I understand, there is
> obsession with "socialism".
> Vinay Shankar
>
> 2013/1/25 Prem Sabhlok
>
> forwarded
> regards
> Prem Sabhlok
>

> ——————————

Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 19:38:29 -0800
> From:
> Subject: Interesting: Arvind Kejriwal's letter to Mukesh Ambani
> To:
>
> Hi,
>
> I am giving below the English translation of a letter written recently by
> Arvind Kejriwal to Mukesh Ambani. It is thought-provoking.
>
> If you feel any of your contacts may be interested in this, please forward
> it to them. For reasons mentioned in the letter, news coverage of Arvind
> Kejriwal and his party has already been severely curtailed and social media
> is perhaps the only way left to spread awareness of such shenanigans.
>
> KA
> ______________________________

__________
>
>   Dear Mr Mukesh Ambani,
>
>  You have recently sent a defamation notice to a number of TV channels.
> Their “crime” is that they aired the press conference held on the 31st October
> 2012 and 9th November 2012, by Prashant Bhushan and me, live. In our
> press conference, we presented before the country how you had illegally
> pressurized the government into increasing gas prices. We also told the
> country that your associates and your companies have accounts in Swiss
> banks where black money had been stashed away. Many TV channels aired our
> expose live.  All these TV channels have now received defamation notices
> from you.
>
>  I find it quite perplexing. If you felt that you have been defamed by
> what Prashant Bhushan and I said, then we are the real culprits and, if you
> had to send a defamation notice, it should have been to us. The TV channels
> merely broadcast what we said. Despite this, instead of sending us the
> defamation notice, you have sent it to the TV channels. It is evident that
> your sole purpose of sending this notice was to steamroll the TV channels
> into subservience.
>
>  The people of India want to ask you some straight questions:
>
>  ·        Is it not true that the list of those who have accounts in Swiss
> Banks, as received by the Government of India, includes your name and the
> names of your relatives, your  friends and your companies?
>
>  ·        Is it not true that a balance of Rs. 100 crores is shown against
> your name in this list?
>
>  ·        Is it not true that you have paid the tax on this amount after
> this list was received by the  Government?
>
>  If the above is true, as we suspect it is, it proves that you have
> admitted your guilt. As per the law of the land, you should be tried and,
> if the charge of tax evasion is proved, you should be sent to jail.
>

> Party has been bought by you – it is your *dukaan*, to be precise. You

> are right. according to some media reports, Mrs. Sonia Gandhi sometimes
> travels by your personal aircraft. People believe that Mr. Jaipal Reddy’s
> ministry was also changed because of your influence.
>
>  Why only the Congress? Even BJP and many other parties are in your
> pocket. Earlier, Mr. Advani used to make a lot of noise about Swiss Bank
> accounts, but since your accounts have been exposed, BJP has suddenly gone
> quiet. BJP has not mentioned a single word in the Parliament about your
> accounts.
>
>  It appears that almost all parties are afraid of you. Most leaders are
> scared of you, too. However, the citizens of this country are not scared of

> you. All parties could be your *dukaan* but India is not up for

> sale. India is ours, it belongs to the people of this country. You can
> purchase political parties and political leaders with your money but we
> will not let India be sold.
>
>  You say that the TV channels have tainted your reputation by airing our
> press conference live. That's wrong. I would urge you to answer this
> question honestly – Did Prashant Bhushan, myself and the TV Channels defame
> you or did you defame yourself through your own misdeeds?
>
>  1. In 2002, you gave 1 Crore shares with a market price of Rs. 55 per
> share to Mr. Pramod Mahajan at just Rs. 1 per share. This was a straight
> bribe to get “Full Mobility”. When you were caught, you took back the

> shares. Presently, the matter is *In court. * Didn't you defame yourself
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>
> ——————————**—————————-–**—————Letter
> in Hindi————————-**—————————-–**
> इस देश के अधिकतर व्यवसायी, कारोबारी, उद्योगपति ईमानदारी **से काम करना

> चाहते हैं। लेकिन आज की व्यवस्था उन्हें बेइमानी करने पर मजबूर करती है। पर
> आपके जैसे उद्योगपति जब खुलेआम व्यवस्था का दुरुपयोग अपने फायदे के लिए करते
> हैं तो इससे सारे उद्योग और व्यवसाय पर काला धब्बा लगता है।
>
> एक तरफ आप हैं, आपके पास पैसा है। दूसरी तरफ इस देश की जनता है। जनता अब जाग
> गई है। जनता के अंदर जुनून है। इतिहास गवाह है कि जब-जब पैसे और जुनून के बीच
> लड़ाई हुई है तो हमेशा जुनून जीता है।
>
> मेरा आपसे निवेदन है कि देश के मीडिया को धमकाने की कोशिश न करें। मीडिया में
> चंद लोग ऐसे हो सकते हैं जिन्होंने खुद गलत काम किए हों। ऐसे मीडियाकर्मी शायद
> आपके दबाव में आ जाएं। लेकिन आज भी अधिकांश पत्रकार देश के लिए काम करते हैं।
> वो आपके दबाव में नहीं आने वाले। इतिहास गवाह है कि जब-जब देश की न्यायपालिका,
> कार्यपालिका और विधायिका चरमराती नज़र आई तो, ऐसे ही पत्रकारों ने लोकतंत्र को
> जिंदा रखा। कुछ ऐसे मीडिया घराने हैं जिनमें सीधे या परोक्ष रूप से आपका पैसा
> लगा है। हो सकता है ऐसे घराने आपके दबाव में आ जाएं, पर इन घरानों में काम
> करने वाले पत्रकार आपके दबाव में नहीं आने वाले।
>
> आपका क्या सपना है? क्या आप बेइमानी से दुनिया के सबसे धनवान व्यक्ति बनना
> चाहते हैं? मान लीजिए आप इस देश की सारी दौलत के मालिक बन जाए। क्या इससे आपको
> खुशी मिलेगी? खुशी अधिक से अधिक धन अर्जित करने से नहीं मिलती। बल्कि त्याग
> करने से मिलती है। आज आप एक ऐसे मुकाम पर खड़े हैं कि यदि आप बेइमानी से
> व्यवसाय करना छोड़ दें और अपनी सारी दौलत देश के लोगों के विकास में लगा दें
> तो यह देश आपको कभी नहीं भूलेगा।
>
> (अरविंद केजरीवाल)



 


 

 

 

 

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Arvind/Prashant please don’t talk about decentralisation while promoting EXTREME centralisation

This is my fourth comment (very brief) on Swaraj and Prashant's urge to nationalise as many thing as he feels are not suited to the market.

Nationalisation is the EXTREME form of centralisation.

And price fixing is an EXTREME form of centralisation.

With such a model in mind (100 per cent socialist), why talk about decentralisation?

Such "sweet" words don't get past me. I see right through these strategies to gain greater and greater control over the lives of people.

There is a TOTAL CONTRADICTION between the "sweet talk" of decentralisation (Swaraj at the village level) on the one hand, and SUPER-CENTRALSIATION (nationalisation, price fixing) on the other.

Let it be known that Arvind and Prashant are promoting UNADULTERATED SOCIALISM.

Giving the example of crony capitalism (which is ALWAYS caused by socialism) is a very poor way turn down capitalism – which is totally different from crony capitalism.

Within the capitalist framework there is very significant decentralisation – subsidiarity – but that too is VERY SEVERELY constrained.

A government has no license to curtail liberty EVEN at the local level. Nowhere. Never.

The government must be kept TIGHTLY under the leash. Democracy must be tightly limited in terms of the subjects and topics it can pass judgement on. Democracy is not license to destroy liberty.

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Swaraj is rooted in the collectivist General Will of Rousseau, not natural rights of John Locke

This is my third comment on Arvind Kejriwal's Swaraj, based on thoughts sparked by reviewing Prakash's comment, below.

Prakash's comment.

As a person who is in favour of markets, I believe that the next step really has to be political markets. We need a hayekian discovery of the law structure that is most appropriate for India.

I have not read the swaraj proposal, but I am extrapolating this from Shailesh’s comment.

I agree with the decentralized law proposal as long as a right to exit is guaranteed to all citizens who are not criminals in the commonly agreed criminal law of the union.

As long as a right to exit is guaranteed to every citizen, for a person seeking to drink alcohol, it is relatively easy to go to the next jurisdiction that allows the same. And if the frequent movement is an issue, one can permanently move to other jurisdictions.

Obviously this will imply things like hanging for marrying within gotra cannot be decided by gram sabhas. There will have to be a common criminal code. There might also need to be goods movement laws that are relatively more central. For eg. if cows for slaughter have to move from one muslim dominated district (where slaughter is legal) to another, via a hindu dominated district where it is illegal, there may need to be passing provisions in the central law. Similar such laws may be needed for alcohol and such similar issues.

I can easily envisage an India where a thousand independent district jurisdictions eagerly publish the benefits of living in their district to every person who passes out from 12th standard. rich jurisidictions can proclaim their cosmopolitan self and high standard of life. Poor jurisidictions can promise a much higher rate of growth for investments. Dharmic jurisidictions can proclaim their adherence to their codes of life, while liberal jurisdictions can promise the ability to drink, snort, inject, smoke, gamble and fornicate.

We are all not the same and there is no reason that there has to be one law ruling all. Where the liberal policy structure does come in is in providing the agreement framework within these many possibilities.

My response

Prakash you are offering a very severe mis-reading of Hayek.

Hayek was a NATURAL RIGHTS advocate. He wanted firmly bounded constitutions at all levels of government. He would never tolerate, even in any "market" based political model, ANY diminution of liberty for the sake of some experiments on people.

What you are saying is that it is quite OK for me to be driven OUT of my place of birth because someone imposes their ideas on me and I refuse to accept them. So you are committing two major fallacies:

a) You are accepting the reduction of my liberties. But I live not to be governed by others. I live to be free. I deny anyone ANY right to impose their will on me.

b) You are advocating Rousseau's collectivist idea of "general will" by which a particular village can have the right to form a "general" collectivist view about what can or cannot be done in that village.

Both are based on the same foundational flaw – that a MAJORITY has a right to encroach on ANYONE'S liberty.

Majorities DO NOT HAVE RIGHTS. We humans have individual natural rights.

All of us have the right to life and liberty.

So, as you can clearly see, Shailesh, you and Arvind come from the same COLLECTIVIST mould of Rousseau. You are willing to tolerate the destruction of liberty by majorities.

That, by the way, was the reason why Socrates OPPOSED democracy, for he knew that there are some who elevate democracy ("general will") to a status greater than the individual.

I deny ALL such rubbish. I refute ANY attempt or any possibility that a village assembly can have ANY right to limit ANYONE'S liberties.

That is, by the way, exactly what Hayek would say, but in far more suave and sophisticated language.

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