10th August 2013
Five methods to end the oppressiveness of the caste system.
I've just tweeted five examples of possible ways by which the oppressiveness of caste can be brought to an end. Two of these I'd already mentioned earlier (in BFN). The fifth method involves abandoning caste entirely. The first two are new suggestions.
I welcome other alternative suggestions.
It is my view that the Hindu is NOT going to give up caste that easily. When something has been drilled into one's head for 3000 years, it takes some time to get rid of it.
It is desirable, therefore, to operationalise the PRETEND/BOGUS (FALSE!!!!) claims of Arya Samaj and others who claim that caste is not hereditary by challenging them to CREATE A PROCESS by which people's caste can be OFFICIALLY changed.
Stop fooling me and others with a fake view that caste is not hereditary. I challenge you to build a system to allocate caste AFTER birth. Then and only then will your fake claims become real. Else I treat them as pure rubbish. Bogus and intended to cheat.
Someone told me that he thought that Dr BR Ambedkar was actually a Brahmin. Sorry, but no one told him that!
So why not create a system WITHIN THE RELIGION to ensure that caste is not determined at birth but at age 18 (say).
I recommend method No. 2 as the most practical method to allocate caste. I'm happy to help create a system by which such an exam can be administered to all the billion Hindus.
Why not method no. 5 (total elimination)? Because that's a delusion. It is never going to happen. After method #2 is implemented for 200 years people will realise this whole thing is sheer red tape and will therefore stop wasting time on the "exam" – and stop bothering about caste.
Note that method #2 means that the lastname of each Hindu will NECESSARILY CHANGE at age 18 after the exam. And a key consequence is that there could be members from all four castes within the same family.
1. One method to eliminate the oppressiveness of caste would be to give everyone the choice to choose their caste.
2. A second method to end the oppressiveness of caste would be to establish an "exam" at age 18 when caste is determined.
3. A third method (I've already mentioned in BFN) is for all Brahmins to lose caste – along with others.
4. A fourth method (again, mentioned in BFN) is for ALL lower castes to become Brahmins.
5. Yet another method – but the least likely to succeed – is for all Hindus to renounce caste.
COMMENTS ON FACEBOOK
RM: As can be witnessed in various developed (wealthy) countries, if there is economic prosperity, people will focus less on race and caste. It will dissolve on its own.
Sanjeev Sabhlok: This is incorrect. Caste is not going to disappear with prosperity. The rich people of India STILL strongly believe in caste.
RS: Nice, but unfortunately we don't have any practical solution .
Sanjeev Sabhlok There is. If caste is not abolished, ALL kinds of people will continue to leave Hinduism. Not just the Dalits and tribals but people like me. It is NOT my job to be part of a religion that oppresses 40 per cent of Indians.
AR Nothing is going to work,unless we kill the sanctity of the religious maths. That is at the core of caste system- Ambedkar did admit that such a reform is not at all possible in Hinduism – to kill the sanctity of maths. And the issue is further complicated with the presence of reservation system. The hitherto lower/backward caste people are willing to be attached to their backward tag as caste has become the basis of getting the comfort. The state is in confused state. But these socio-political issues can be solved only when the religious issues are addressed, which doesn't seem to be a reality anywhere soon.
YS Only free markets will eliminate caste. I mean make caste irrelevant. I mean you can't remove it. There is nothing wrong in caste. All kinship groups can prosper equally and I see nothing wrong in belonging to a kinship group. As a state or the rule of law should not be different for different groups/religions/castes but people are entitled to belong to a certain group if they wish to – essence of property rights….Everywhere there are castes – even in America, even among other religions in India or elsewhere is different forms.
AR free market is not a panacea for social evils- the free market can hardly address the religious issues from where this caste system takes its root.
Sanjeev Sabhlok YS, both your arguments are incorrect. First, there is NO evidence that becoming wealthier or more educated reduces caste. Indians are hugely wealthy in USA but caste based marriage advertisements continue as usual. Caste, you are forgetting, is BY BIRTH. It has nothing to do with post-birth work/merit. Second, you are spouting the fake arguments that all "Hindus" keep giving – that there is caste in other parts of the world. That is entirely wrong. Caste is based on transmigration of the soul, and no other religion believes in transmigration. Please understand your own religion properly and you'll realise it has some extremely evil consequences. Re: what I should focus on, kindly leave that decision to me. I see caste as cutting India's GDP and future potential by about 80 per cent. It has lowered the IQ of 80 per cent of India's population. The average Indian's IQ is close to that of a "moron" (in old IQ lingo). Morons can't become wealthy even if you free the markets. Changing Hinduism is getting more and more urgent.
RS These ideas are sounds good but sadly, all these five will fail in the practical world. Because today caste is not a big issue for our current generation most of my friends have done love marriage or you can say inter caste marriages, even our families does not have any problem because they are well educated. Main problem in India is reservation which is caste base nobody wants to leave their caste, no body wants to become Brahmin because they won't get reservation, if we totally abolish the caste system then no body will be able to get reservation so its irrelevant. The best thing is education and willingness to leave the caste culture more and more inter cast inter religion marriages. I don't thing even one of the five ideas will work in our society.
Sanjeev Sabhlok RS you are mixing up India with yourself. Please go to villages and study caste. It is AS strong as ever before. And no, please don't blame the reservation system for caste. Yes, it must go, but I would like the caste system to go first.
SavitriEra Party suggested that Sri Aurobindo Ghosh's method be used to eliminate caste. On inquiring, it was found to be the following: "Caste is imbibed from family & culture in the mind. By education & appropriate logic, the mind can be changed in a progressive way. First step is to rid individuals from the Caste mentality. It can spread further."
This "solution" is not helpful at all.