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Nehru was a Brahmin. Ambedkar was a Brahmin. But Rahul Gandhi? What a joke!

Dirty politics seem to be in the BLOOD of this two penny "leader" Rahul Gandhi.

Not only has he keenly clung on to the BILLIONS of dollars of corrupt money that his grandmother, father and mother accumulated, he is bringing his so-called "caste" into play.

during a recent review meeting when the upper caste/Brahmin argument was invoked by a local UP leader saw Congress leader Rahul Gandhi rebutting the claim by remarking "I am a Brahmin [Source]

From the (current) traditional Hindu perspective, there is SIMPLY NO DOUBT that Rahul Gandhi is NOT a Brahmin.

Why?

His grandmother [corrigendum: I had written "mother”] lost her (father-transmitted) "Brahminhood" the moment she married Feroze Gandhi, a Parsi (Zoroastrian). In (traditional) Hinduism, no "Hindu" ceremony can allow a Parsi to become Hindu. Like the Jews (and Hindus), Zoroastrians can never change their religion – unless they renounce it specifically. But most problematicallly for Rahul Gandhi's delusions of "Brahminism", (traditional) Hinduism does not have ANY mechanism to accept someone from another religion. Thus, his grandmother lost her Hindu roots immediately upon marrying a Parsi.

Not only that, in traditional Hinduism the woman gets the "caste" of her husband – in this case casteless (thankfully) Parsi.

In other words, Rajeev Gandhi was a Parsi, Zoroastrian (regardless of his belief, if any).

And Rahul Gandhi is CLEARLY Parsi (regardless of his mother being Christian). Rahul Gandhi CAN NEVER be accepted into Hinduism under traditional rules.

This, in any event, is the traditional Hindu story.

So Rahul Gandhi is LYING.

But I'm an opponent of the caste system and this stream of thought (howsoever interesting to some) is irrelevant.

What may be relevant is the original meaning of the word "Brahmin" that was pointed out by Sureshan on this blog the other day:

Story of Maithreya is very important . Here explains what is the real meaning of Brahmin- a person of high thoughts and high knowledge can be Brahmin. Since Maithreya was born to a domestic servant he did not know who was his father. After attaining knowledge he was became Brahmin. So the basis for identification of four different sects was their duties and nothing more. By birth no body entitled to claim any caste  [<[Source]/span>

Assuming this meaning to be true, only someone of high knowledge and high thoughts can be considered Brahmin.

Thus Nehru was a genuine Brahmin (I hold him in high esteem as a thinker, despite vehement difference with his ideology). And Ambedkar was a Brahmin.

But Rahul Gandhi??

He must be joking.

What a clown.

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57 thoughts on “Nehru was a Brahmin. Ambedkar was a Brahmin. But Rahul Gandhi? What a joke!
  1. Munish Raizada

    Good analysis. This information needs to spread to masses. It will be a dis grace and misfortune if India is a clown like Rahul Gandhi ever becomes Prime Minister of India.

     
  2. Kishan

    Let us leave the tradition of Hindu families aside for the sake of argument.We can accept that Indira was a devout Hindu.Dhirendra Brahmchari was her yoga teacher.She must have visited almost all famous Hindu temples and prayed there. One knew from her these and other acts and her attitude towards religion in general that she was Hindu in her mind and in her actions. But the same things cannot be said for either Rahul’s father or her mother or even for him. So from this view point his claim to be a Brahmin is duplicity of the highest degree.
    The other viewpoint i.e. how Manu defined a Brahmin, a Kshatriya, a Vaishya, and a Shudra, you have already dealt in your post. By that definition Ambedkar was a Brahmin of the highest order.

     
  3. Sanjeev Sabhlok

    Kishan, I have clarified (unless I’m proven wrong) that Indira Gandhi was NOT a Hindu according to the strict interpretation of Manu’s laws. True, there is no restriction on non-Hindus visiting Hindu temples or praying to Hindu gods. But they cannot become Hindu under the strict interpretation of Hindu laws.

    I oppose all such laws, but I do want to make clear that either Rahul accepts in these laws or he opposes them. If he accepts these laws, then he is NOT Hindu. Can NEVER be Hindu, leave alone Brahmin.

    If he denies these laws (as I do, since I have effectively abstracted the best from Hinduism), then he still is NOT a Brahmin.

    Either way, Rahul Gandhi seems to be lying, BIG TIME! – unless someone can show that my interpretation is incorrect.

    s

     
  4. buddha

    PEOPLE-NOBODY IS BORN IN ANY CASTE.

    READ THE BHAGWAD GITA.

    YOU BECOME A BRAHMIN, KSHATRIYA, VAISHNAV OR SHUDRA BY YOUR DEEDS/OCCUPATION IN YOUR CURRENT LIFE.

    THE BANE OF INDIAN SOCIETY IS CASTEISM.

    AND CASTEISM IS RAMPANT DESPITE DENIALS FROM ALL QUARTERS.

     
  5. Raghav

    Nehru did not born in Brahman family, neither he was not brahman by deeds
    How Nehru could claim himself as brahman?

     
  6. s sanyal

    Feroze Gandhi was not a Parsee. Please correct yourself. His original name was Feroze Khan and he was Muslim by birth.

     
  7. Sanjeev Sabhlok

    Kindly provide proof of your statement.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feroze_Gandhi

    Wikipedia states: Feroze Jehangir Gandhi was born to a Parsi family at the Tehmulji Nariman Hospital situated in Fort, Bombay. His parents, Faredoon Jehangir and Ratimai (formerly Ratimai Commissariat), lived in Nauroji Natakwala Bhawan in Khetwadi Mohalla in Bombay.[5] His father Jehangir Gandhi was a Marine Engineer in Killick Nixon and was later promoted as a Warrant Engineer.[6] Feroze was the youngest of the five children with two brothers Dorab Gandhi and Faridun Jehangir Gandhi,[7][8] and two sisters, Tehmina Kershashp Gandhi and Aloo Gandhi Dastur.[9] The family had migrated to Bombay from Bharuch in South Gujarat where their ancestral home, which belonged to his grandfather, still exists in Kotpariwad.[10]

     
  8. jalwan

    thanks sanjeev ji ur views / lines of action highly appreciable n great . certainly u r light for the society as a whole for the mankind . none is high or low by birth but actions make so . due to enmity n pride of vasisth n viswamittra all sons of former got killed none except his son’s pregnant wife whom parasar was born. parasar while crossing the river raped the fisherwoman resulting baby biyas was left in jungal . later on biyas was biological father of akshtriya duryodhana , pandava who could not be father whose wife kunti n madri had akshtriya sons from diffrent persons , sudra vidur from maid and brahmin sukhdev from own wife . if everybody in the society is really educated , they may understand the nonsense creation of caste where brahman protected by akshtriya ,financed by vaishya n served by sudra no longer exists because of great brahmans like ambedkar with whose blessing low caste person heading the greatest democracy of the world and otherwise brahmans proved shradh khanewale brahmans by killing the congress who made ambedkar to elections in own state however he won from bangal where converted brothers voted for him to win ,which area is in banladesh . caste divides, brotherhood unites

     
  9. Patil

    Re: “Rahul Gandhi is NOT a Brahmin.

    Why?

    His mother lost her (father-transmitted) “Brahminhood” the moment she married Feroze Gandhi, a Parsi (Zoroastrian).”

    Sanjeevji, How come, his mother married to his Grand father Feroze Gandhi? His mother is Sonia Gandhi a Christian by birth.
    Later, you have stated Rajiv Gandhi correctly, but the whole blog post is confusing, rather already complicated in real.
    Re: “Wikipedia states: Feroze Jehangir Gandhi was born to a Parsi family”
    I don’t think “Wikipedia” is that authentic to make references for such relationship. If you trust Wikipedia, you’ve to trust other sources over the net as well.

     
  10. Sanjeev Sabhlok

    Good pick up. I write very quickly, in minutes. I have fixed the errors (I think – pl. check).

    Re: Feroze Gandhi, what’s your alternative hypothesis/ source?

     
  11. Patil

    Thanks for the correction. It was to avoid further confusions, nothing else. I know you’re so busy writing all the day on different issues.

     
  12. Patil

    My second comment posted twice erroneously, due to slow net speed, I assumed it didn’t go.

    Feroze Gandhi, what’s your alternative hypothesis/ source?

    Sources: You may find hundreds, even in some books written by authentic writers. I don’t have them ready right now as I didn’t care to collect for future ref. But, there’s lot interesting to read.

     
  13. Patil

    Sanjeevji, why are you angry on Rahul? He is absolutely right. If you trust wikipedia, it’s clearly mentioned that Ambedkar belonged to Mahar (dalit) caste as per below excerpt:

    “Ambedkar was born into a poor low Mahar, (dalit) caste in the town and military cantonment of Mhow in the Central Provinces (now in Madhya Pradesh) {Ref: Jaffrelot, Christophe (2005). Ambedkar and Untouchability: Fighting the Indian Caste System. New York: Columbia University Press. p. 2. ISBN 0-23 -13602-1}. . He was the 14th and last child of Ramji Maloji Sakpal, a ranked army officer at the post of Subedarand Bhimabai Murbadkar Sankpal. {Ref: Pritchett, Frances. “In the 1890s” (PHP).Archived from the original on 7 September 2006. Retrieved 2 August 2006}.”

     
  14. Sanjeev Sabhlok

    No, Patil,

    I’m not angry at Rahul! I’m merely challenging him to get rid of this caste NONSENSE from his head.

    That’s why I call ANYONE who talks about his/her or other’s “caste” A DONKEY.

    CASTE IS ACTUTE NONSENSE AND RUBBISH. Anyone who thinks there is caste is a total fool.

    s

     
  15. Sanjeev Sabhlok

    I do feel sorry, however, that I have to use such challenging words in order to get the message through. I can’t think of any other way to kill this mental disease, the rot that is found in the minds of so many Indians.

    Why can’t we just be humans? 

     
  16. Rahul Sawant

    Dr. Babasaheb Ambedkar was not a Brahmin…. He was a Dalit Mahar,this is the fact . If he was a HUMAN and not a Donkey then why are you placing him in the Caste ” Brahmin” .Whereas the REAL fact is he was a ” Dalit Mahar ” in a sense ” Outcaste” ( thank fully ) . So, lease don’t interpret the history wrongly . Rather,he was a true Buddhist in real sense . I appreciate you take his thought ahead that everyone is ” Equally Human “. The title of your writing is misleading plz do REMOVE it. Please don’t create a wrong picture of history

     
  17. Rahul Sawant

    Mr. Sanjeev Sabhlok after reading your article http://www.sabhlokcity.com/2012/04/i-hereby-anoint-all-dalits-as-brahmins-and-i-challenge-anyone-to-oppose-me/ I feel my previous reply was not very right … But I hate itself the word “Brahmin” And Ambedkar’s name after it is nearly unbearable to me. Rather The word Bodhisattva Is what I prefer . But I feel your intention is very sincere and moral in saying Babasaheb was a Brahmin ,I appreciate it .

     
  18. Sanjeev Sabhlok

    This is not the wrong picture. The wrong picture is to have ANYONE think of caste. I am challenging the fools who undermine Ambedkar due to his “caste” – and undermining the fool Rahul Gandhi who imagines he is a “brahmin”. Yes, I did take a technical approach here, but the fact that idiots like Kejriwal and Rahul Gandhi talk about “their” caste (i.e. donkey) is a big deal. Let’s pin these donkeys down each time they utter any caste word.

    s

     
  19. jalwan

    kajal ki kothri mei kitno hi sayona jaye lagathai lagagatai . everybody is blaming the caste system but none is ready to leave it . man having four sons working as cultivator, carpenter, weaver and cobbler each were living happily when an outsider came got them married and trouble started let it be ramayana or mahabharta or any other hindu scripture which confused everybody as brahman high caste , akshtriya low caste vaishya lower caste ,and sudra 85% indians lowest caste from which caste a man marrying a woman of high caste ie.brahman the children shall be of chandal caste (A CASTE) where as if above order if reversed if. man of high caste brahman marryng lowest caste sudra woman children shall be nishad caste (B CASTE) which caste should be above the caste of maharishi vyas ‘s caste as his mother was from mallah caste. thus if a man from CASTE A marrying a woman from CASTE B then children shall be CHAMAR IE COBBLER CASTE . everybody knows tatas / batas origin is not india LOHARS / CHAMARS OR PARASIS — GRATEST INDIAN IE. BABA SAHEB STAYED IN SOME PARASI HOTEL IN BOMBAY BEING MAHAR / CHAMAR COULD NOT FIND PLACE IN HOTEL THERE . srimati indra gandhi from brahman caste married to not even hindu sudra but to parasi so children as above again whose wife /husband not even hindu sudra , grand child RAHUL IS NOT BRAHMAN AS STATED BY HIM BUT AS PER HINDU SCRIPTURES as explained above.

     
  20. jalwan

    NONE IS HIGH OR LOW ONE’S DEEDS MAKE SO . PUBLIC KNOWS SPIRIT OF RAHUL AS WELL THAT OF KEJARIWAL ONLY CASTE REMARKS MADE THEM TO LOOSE AND WIN. EVERYBODY IS PROUD OF HIS WIFE WHETHER KALI/GAURI /CHOTI/MOTI/PATLI N SO ON FOR CASTE . I HAPPENED TO ATTEND A MUHURAT FOR HOUSE CONSTN.OF A PERSON (CASTE MAHAR/SC )WHERE A PUJARI (BRAHMAN CASTE – GOD BRAHMAN) WAS TO DO HAVAN POOJA ALONG WITH ONE SKILLED LABOURER CALLED MISTARY(CASTE KHATI / JANGRA BRAHMAN -OBC ) WHICH IS FROM WORD MR.WHICH CAN BE USED FROM PRESIDENT TO A RIKSHA PULLER BESIDE ANOTHER NON SKILLED (AHIR CASTE-OBC) WHO WISHED TO CALLED RAO SAHAB MASALA LAIYE BY THE MISTARY WHO STATED TO BE ABOVE GOD BRAHMAN PUJARI(GHUTNA LEVEL) FOR BEING JANGDA BRAHMAN (JHANGH LEVEL) OF COURSE PERSON OWNER OF THE MURAT IS THEIR SIR LEVEL BEING MALIK . SO PRACTICALITY HAS TO COME FALSE CASTE EGO HAS TO GO TO DEVELOP INDIA

     
  21. Naveen Chandra

    It is clearly said by Krishna in Bhagavtagita that one’s caste is determined by one’s gunas and one’s karmas. No one is born into a caste. In Mahabharata and Ramayanana the words meaning caste are used in this sense. Vyasa was son of a fisher woman Satyavati and a Brahmin Parashar.That did not stop him from writing Brahma Sutras, Mahabharata (Therefore Bhagavatgita) and Mahabhagavata. Rama was not a Brahmin Krishna was not a Brahmin.They became Gods. Vasisht married Arundhati who was an “Untouchable”. Vishwamitra was not a Brahmin but he became a Brahmarshi..There are many instances where a so called non Brahmin and even of lower caste became a great scholar, became a god and are now worshipped. Let us forget this nonsense of caste which was used by Muslim and British rulers to divide Hindus. Let us unite as Bharateeyas. We are first Bharateeya and then a Bengali or Tamil etc. Let us unite for India’s sake.

     
  22. Sanjeev Sabhlok

    Well said, except that it is NOT true that “this nonsense of caste which was used by Muslim and British rulers to divide Hindus”. Don’t point fingers at others. Manusmriti is as clear as day re: the caste system. It is a brutal HINDU system. 

     
  23. Sandeep

    I don’t what Rahul is… but your statement that Babasaheb Ambedkar was a Brahmin technically sounds right. Baba saheb in his book “Who were the shudras ? has mentioned that the Shudras were Kshatriyas and they were Aryans. Everybody knows the invasion story of the Aryans.

     
  24. Sanjeev Sabhlok

    Sorry, I’m not referring to these ridiculous ideas about caste. I’m making quite a different point.

     
  25. jalwan

    manusmarti is as clear as day re: caste. double speech guys are like dumuhe snakes can also walk in opposite directions instantly misguide innocent public by false blame game on muslims or britishers . who can divide a divided house in tight compartments where a donkey born in upper compartment can’t move out of compartment he is born despite his all efforts as caste comes from father not from mother which means status of woman is of no importance in deciding once caste . therefore importance must be given to woman to marry a man of her choice in order to have son of that particular caste . within a period of 20 years caste system shall be of paste age . presently cheats are opposing caste , they are not well wishers of the nation . present bharat is not even half of original bharat- jambodvip which got broken into pieces latest examples are pakistan , bangla desh and india split in three parts .

     
  26. Sanjeev Sabhlok

    I’m sorry I disagree with your thesis, but you sure are an example of what’s wrong with Hinduism.

     
  27. swapnil Patil

    If u really want to end something then u stop talking and propagating the same. Sorry bt u seem to be a bjp follower ,thus hinduism follower then comes RSS thereafter brahmin.u r clever

     
  28. Sanjeev Sabhlok

    We DO need to talk about the rotten caste system. And no, I’m not propagating the same. I’m its worst enemy.

     
  29. Ambedkar Follower

    Sorry but, I think you are the one of the Member of Sanatanai or RSS because you don’t known anything about the Bharatratna Dr. B.R Ambedkar. Your knowledge is less.
    Read the “Manusmriti” book written by brahmin rishi “Manu”. This is responsible for cast discrimination in India.

    First Dr. Ambedkar was belonging to Dalit Category “Mahar”. His real Surname was “Sapkal”. He was born in Mahow, Madhyapradesh. He was belonging to Ambavadekar Village(Native Village) in Konkan, Maharashtra. His School teacher gives the ” Ambedkar” surname for his better education, because that time Upper Caste didn’t want Dalit Mahar be a Educated.

    Dr. Ambedkar not like the Hindu Religion for many reason like cast system, rules and many more etc.
    For better knowledge read Dr. Ambedkar’s books Who were the Shudras?, Riddle in Hinduism, Manus & Shudras, Annihilation of Cast.

    He leaves Hindu religion in 14 October 1956 at Dikshabhumi, Nagpur and accept the Buddhism.
    And gives 22 Vows to the Dalit Peoples during religion conversion:

    http://www.angelfire.com/ak/ambedkar/BR22vows.html

    I give reference link for Improve your knowledge otherwise come to Dikshabhumi, Nagpur/Chaityabhumi Dadar, Mumbai on Vijyadashmi(Dushehera) or 6th December you can get many books on Dr. Ambedkar

    http://www.culturalindia.net/reformers/br-ambedkar.html

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/B._R._Ambedkar

    http://ambedkarlawcollege.in/about-us/dr-babasaheb-ambedkar/

    https://drambedkarbooks.com/dr-b-r-ambedkar-books/

    Books:

    Dr. Babasaheb Ambedkar by Dhananjay Kher

    Dr Ambedkar as an Intellectual Biography by Vijay Mankar

    Dr. Babasaheb Ambedkar by Vsant Moon
    & More than 100 Biography Book on Ambedkar easily available in Online & Bookstall

    Many Evidence & Proof are Available that Dr. B. R. Ambedkar was Not a Brahmin. He was a “Mahar”.

    Before any replay check all the links & read any one books or Visit Dikshabhumi or Chaityabhumi

     
  30. Ambedkar Follower

    Sorry
    I only says correct your sentence that, “Dr. Ambedkar was Mahar”
    Correct your sentence that all…

    Dr. Ambedkar not Brahmin …

    I don’t intrest on your Gandhi family matter Rahul is Brahmin or Not.
    This is his problem not yours.No one say your belonging from xyz cast or religion.Then way are you look out his cast. This is not your business.

    Sanatani & Manuwadi Thought want to Break the Unity of Various Religious people that happily live in India or Bharat with one nation.

    Manuwadi want 4 Varnaj of Criminal Manu Rishi that mainly responsible for discrimination in India.

    And Stop your Bakwas & Faltu Debate..
    Read Some useful book & look the new mordern world in Scientifically not Religiously, because religion make always Handicap or Terrorist…

    Think on Humidity world is change and every is educated, they known right or wrong for them.
    The time of Rishi & Maharishi is gone & buried with funeral…

    India do not need any Swarna, Manuwadi & Sanatani thought & thinking..

    Indian people are educated…

     
  31. Sanjeev Sabhlok

    You still didn’t get my point, did you?

    YOU are the one promoting the caste system. Get rid of it. Spit it out of your head.

     
  32. Ambedkar Follower

    Sorry,
    I only says correct your sentence that, “Dr. Ambedkar was Mahar”
    Correct your sentence thats all…

    Dr. Ambedkar not a Brahmin & don’t use word Brahmin for him.

    I don’t intrest on your Gandhi family matter Rahul is Brahmin or Not.
    This is his problem not yours.No one says you are belonging from xyz cast or religion.Then why are you look out his cast.This is non of your business.

    Sanatani & Manuwadi Thought want to Break the Unity of Various Religious people that happily live in India or Bharat with one nation.

    Manuwadi want 4 Varna of Criminal Manu Rishi that mainly responsible for discrimination in India.

    And Stop your Bakwas & Faltu Debate..
    Read Some useful book & look the new mordern world in Scientifically not Religiously, because religion make a man to Handicap or Terrorist…

    Think on Humanity, World is changing and every one are educated, they known right or wrong for them.
    The time of Rishi & Maharishi’s are gone & buried with funeral…

    India do not need any Swarna, Manuwadi & Sanatani thought & thinking..

    Indian peoples are educated…

    Read:
    Who were the Shudras?
    Riddle Hinduism
    Annihilation of Cast in India
    Manu & Shudhrs

     
  33. Ambedkar Follower

    If you really rid then..
    Why use Brahmin word for Ambedkar..

    You can says your point in simply way & conveniently..

     
  34. Ambedkar Follower

    Tell the truth of RSS to every one..
    RSS Publish Holwalkar book that support the cast system in indai..

    Tell the truth if criminal mau rishi..

    Tell the real history of Aryans the do not belonging as native and Ruled over people by using manusmriti …

    Tell all agenda of ..
    Sanatani, RSS to every one in a simple way..
    If really want to rid on cast system…

     
  35. Ambedkar Follower

    Tell the truth of RSS to every one..
    RSS Publish Holwalkar book that support the cast system in india

    Tell the truth if criminal manu rishi..

    Tell the real history of Aryans they do not belonging as native and Ruled over people by using manusmriti …

    Tell all agenda of ..
    Sanatani, RSS to every one in a simple way..
    If you really want to rid on cast system… Then tell all the truth…

     
  36. Ambedkar Follower

    Sorry,
    I only says correct your sentence that, “Dr. Ambedkar was Mahar”
    Correct your sentence thats all…

    Dr. Ambedkar not a Brahmin & don’t use word Brahmin for him..

    Says on your blog ..
    Ambedkar was Mahar..

    Thats all..
    You can debate on Anyone i don’t care…

     
  37. Sanjeev Sabhlok

    “Dr. Ambedkar not a Brahmin”

    I detest the caste system and reject it outright.

    But if anyone was a Brahmin in India’s past 2000 years, it was Ambedkar and none else.

     
  38. Jalwan

    Everyone is brahama _ atma = self being. Caste is nonsense. No question of if n but . whoeverso observes caste is caward idiodic seeks false strenth / pride which has proved great loss to jambudvip/aryavarta/bharta/himdustan / lndia _ bharat. Learn to be humanbeings .live n let live with respect n go ahead to prosparity of all .

     
  39. Rushabh

    Sanjev sabhlok please give proof where MAHAMANAV BABASAHEB DR B. R. AMBEDKAR has stated that “person with high intelligence is called a brahmin” and where BABASAHEB himself has stated he is brahmin. which is totally a lie. Throughout his life BABASAHEB opposed brahminism and called brahminism the root of all social injustice and caste system.
    BABASAHEB came from an untouchable MAHAR family from MAHARASHTRA but cherished humanism throughout his life.
    Calling BABASAHEB a brahmin is not just a lie but also distruction of history and an agenda by brahminical mindset to change BABASAHEBS ideology.

     
  40. Sanjeev Sabhlok

    My point is symbolic, Rushabh. There should be NO brahmin and no Mahar. ALL ARE HUMAN and are FUNDAMENTALLY and genetically EQUAL.

     
  41. Rushabh

    All humans are fundamentally and genetically equal that’s why you should call BABASAHEB DR B. R. AMBEDKAR A HUMANIST and not a brahmin in your blog. PLEASE ACCORDINGLY DO THE CHANGES IN YOUR BLOG.

     
  42. Ramakrishna

    Caste is not Varna ( chaturvarna ).
    Caste is one’s profession. There is no question of
    conversion into a caste. Most people stick to their
    traditional occupations. Nothing wrong with it.
    In Hindu culture there Is no concept of religious
    conversion. That doesn’t mean that Hindus don’t
    welcome other’s into their fold. Engaging in a
    productive activity without harming anybody is
    the Essenes of Hindu Dharma. Anyone doing that
    Is a Dharmic person. We want the world to follow
    the Dharmic traditions. ” Do unto others as you
    would have them do unto you ” is the essence of
    Human Dharma . It is also the essence of Hindu
    Dharma . conversion Business has drenched the
    world with the blood of Innocents. Spiritual knowledge
    Was available to all people in India. There is no
    bar to foreigners in acquiring spiritual knowledge.

    Indira or Nehru or Rajiv or Rahul have no understanding
    Of India or their aspirations. They perpetrated the
    Colonial policies which were all Anti-Dharma.

     
  43. Ramakrishna

    ” Manusmriti is as clear as day re: the caste system. It is a brutal HINDU system ” –

    ” Manu is the universal lawgiver; not alone for Hindu society,
    but for the world. All systems of wise social regulations and
    even justice are patterned after Manu. Nietzsche has paid
    the following tribute: “I know of no book in which so many
    delicate and kindly things are said to woman as in the
    Lawbook of Manu; those old graybeards and saints have
    a manner of being gallant to women which perhaps cannot
    be surpassed . . . an incomparably intellectual and superior
    work . . . replete with noble values, it is filled with a feeling
    of perfection, with a saying of yea to life, and a triumphant
    sense of well-being in regard to itself and to life; the sun
    shines upon the whole book.”
    ” Inclusion in one of these four castes originally depended
    not on a man’s birth but on his natural capacities as
    demonstrated by the goal in life he elected to achieve,”
    an article in East-West for January, 1935, tells us. “This
    goal could be (1) kama, desire, activity of the life of the
    senses (Sudra stage), (2) artha, gain, fulfilling but controlling
    the desires (Vaisya stage), (3) dharma, self-discipline, the
    life of responsibility and right action (Kshatriya stage),
    (4) moksha, liberation, the life of spirituality and religious
    teaching (Brahmin stage). These four castes render service
    to humanity by (1) body, (2) mind, (3) will power, (4) Spirit.

    “These four stages have their correspondence in the eternal
    gunas or qualities of nature, tamas, rajas, and sattva:
    obstruction, activity, and expansion; or, mass, energy, and
    intelligence. The four natural castes are marked by the
    gunas as (1) tamas (ignorance), (2) tamas-rajas (mixture
    of ignorance and activity), (3) rajas-sattva (mixture of right
    activity and enlightenment), (4) sattva (enlightenment).
    Thus has nature marked every man with his caste, by the predominance in himself of one, or the mixture of two, of the
    gunas. Of course every human being has all three gunas in
    varying proportions. The guru will be able rightly to determine
    a man’s caste or evolutionary status.

    “To a certain extent, all races and nations observe in practice,
    if not in theory, the features of caste. Where there is great
    license or so-called liberty, particularly in intermarriage between extremes in the natural castes, the race dwindles away and
    becomes extinct. The Purana Samhita compares the offspring
    of such unions to barren hybrids, like the mule which is incapable
    of propagation of its own species. Artificial species are eventually exterminated. History offers abundant proof of numerous great
    races which no longer have any living representatives. The caste system of India is credited by her most profound thinkers with
    being the check or preventive against license which has preserved
    the purity of the race and brought it safely through millenniums of vicissitudes, while other races have vanished in oblivion.”

    Auto Biography of a yogi – Paramahamsa Yogananda
    Chapter 41.

    No need to fret over caste or varna . We need to
    understand it. The one regarding molten lead – is a
    Christian interpolation. The Christians have inflicted
    Mega-Giga-Tera tortures on Americans, Africans, Indians,
    Srilankans, Australians.The Christians have inflicted even
    greater tortures on Hindus – touchable or untouchables,
    upper or lower castes, Muslims , fellow Syrian Christians,
    And Jews.

     
  44. Sanjeev Sabhlok

    “” Inclusion in one of these four castes originally depended
    not on a man’s birth but on his natural capacities as
    demonstrated by the goal in life he elected to achieve,”

    This may well have been the origin of caste/varna.

    It quickly degenerated – in party because of Manu – into the MOST VICIOUS and inhuman system ever devised.

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